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From: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>
To: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v11 1/7] dt-bindings: phy: document the serdes PHY on sa8255p
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2026 04:12:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMRc=MfBcOhbj=ETxy2Xz9o_nyzykrEhKAc3jYi6V5_jMZEE3Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <akOZFIowVvprnAMf@vaman>

On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 12:23:16 +0200, Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org> said:
> On 29-06-26, 16:51, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> > Russell King asked me to put the PHY logic for SCMI pm domains into the PHY
>> > driver instead of the MAC driver where it was previously. Instead of cramming
>> > both HLOS and firmware handling into the same driver, I figured it makes more
>> > sense to have a dedicated, cleaner driver as the two share very little code (if
>> > any).
>>
>> I think you are mixing up DT bindings and driver implementation?
>
> Should the bindings change if we have different driver and firmware
> implementations? Isn't binding supposed to be agnostic of
> implementations..?
>

I've thought about it some more and I believe this question is philosophical in
nature.

sa8775p and sa8255p are *the same* hardware. I can flash different firmware on
the same Lemans Ride board and it becomes one or the other. Yet they are not
described by the same DTS and the bindings differ as well. I don't see why we
wouldn't allow the same approach for the this PHY.

We treat it as different HW variant when it's managed by firmware - just like
we do with the rest of the SoC.

Bart

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-02  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-29 11:28 [PATCH net-next v11 0/7] net: stmmac: qcom-ethqos: add support for SCMI power domains Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-06-29 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v11 1/7] dt-bindings: phy: document the serdes PHY on sa8255p Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-06-29 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-06-29 14:07     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-06-29 14:51       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-06-29 16:54         ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-06-30 10:18           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-06-30 10:23         ` Vinod Koul
2026-06-30 13:24           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-30 13:44           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-01 10:39             ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-02  9:12           ` Bartosz Golaszewski [this message]
2026-07-02  9:16             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-07-02  9:44               ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-03 10:21                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-03 10:13               ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-03 10:20               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-30  6:22   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-29 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v11 2/7] phy: qcom: add the SGMII SerDes PHY driver for SCMI systems Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-06-29 13:35   ` Julian Braha
2026-06-30 13:27   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v11 3/7] dt-bindings: net: qcom: document the ethqos device for SCMI-based systems Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-06-30 13:27   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v11 4/7] net: stmmac: qcom-ethqos: set serdes mode before powerup Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-06-29 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v11 5/7] net: stmmac: qcom-ethqos: reuse the address of ethqos_emac_driver_data Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-06-29 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v11 6/7] net: stmmac: qcom-ethqos: factor out linux-level setup into a separate function Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-06-29 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v11 7/7] net: stmmac: qcom-ethqos: add support for sa8255p Bartosz Golaszewski

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