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From: "LA Walsh" <law@tlinx.org>
To: "'Andrew Walrond'" <andrew@walrond.org>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: A Kernel Configuration Tale of Woe
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:09:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000201c2972a$d9d523c0$1403a8c0@sc.tlinx.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3DE36A10.4050506@walrond.org>


I thought arrogance was almost a prerequisite for being a Linux kernel
programmer?  

Seriously, if one is working on a project for which you are the highest
authority, then in your world, you are the center of your knowledge.
Any
other knowledge or view is somehow less important.  Trivializing and
marginalizing people with other views becomes standard practice.  When
you
think you know so much, you can't even begin to take on another's view
for the sake of understanding.  Instead, all you can do is tear them
down.
To even begin to try to understand takes great courage to *risk* being
wrong.  If you are identified with your work, then any questioning about
the 'standard way of doing things' is an immediate threat that is to be 
eliminated, expeditiously.  The strength of reaction is a gauge to the
arrogant person's level of fear.  

Some folks focus on the technology rather than identifying with it and
are actually
decent, reasonable people you can have a discussion with.  Others are so
full
of themselves as to label dissenters as 'dangerous' people who shouldn't
be allowed
to share their opinions.  One of the more ironic, self-evident
remarks a senior kernel contributor made: "they don't let their
ignorance get 
in the way of their opinions".  Ain't it the truth.

It's when we shut our minds that we become ignorant.

-l



> From:  Andrew Walrond
> The attitude of *some* people (even those considered senior) 
> in this and other mailing lists is down right shameful.
> 
> Anybody who are genuinely trying to help, contribute or just get 
> involved all too often have their efforts publicly belittled.
> 
> Polite criticism and guidance is always the better option and 
> encourages people to join in rather than frightening them off.
> 
> Arrogance (Ar"ro*gance) (#), n.
> [F., fr. L. arrogantia, fr. arrogans. See Arrogant.]


  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-28 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-25 19:30 Dennis Grant
2002-11-25 20:00 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-11-26 10:57   ` Adrian Bunk
2002-11-26 14:44     ` Alan Cox
2002-11-26 12:33 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-11-28 22:09   ` LA Walsh [this message]
2002-11-29  1:28     ` Miles Bader
2002-11-29 10:04       ` Andrew Walrond
2002-11-29 10:21         ` Miles Bader
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-27 17:52 Dennis Grant
2002-11-27 18:01 ` Alex Riesen
2002-11-27 17:47 Mark H. Wood
     [not found] <fa.gaum5rv.1j3snhh@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.ivlir9v.u14v3p@ifi.uio.no>
2002-11-27  8:43   ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-11-27 10:12     ` John Bradford
2002-11-26 19:28 Dennis Grant
2002-11-26 19:45 ` John Bradford
2002-11-27 10:55   ` Keith Owens
2002-11-27 12:03     ` Roman Zippel
2002-11-27 12:19       ` Keith Owens
2002-11-27 19:01         ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-11-27 19:14         ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-11-26 20:05 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-26 23:21   ` Roger Gammans
2002-11-27  6:10     ` Greg KH
2002-11-26 17:57 Dennis Grant
2002-11-26 18:11 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-11-26 18:24   ` Rusty Lynch
2002-11-26 23:46     ` Lee Leahu
2002-11-26 15:35 Dennis Grant
2002-11-26 17:01 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-11-26 17:35 ` Rusty Lynch
2002-11-26 18:04   ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2002-11-26 18:46     ` Alan Cox
2002-11-26 18:48 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-11-26  9:15 Thomas Hood
2002-11-25 17:33 Dennis Grant
2002-11-25 18:10 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-11-25 18:58   ` Samuel Flory
2002-11-26 16:58   ` Kai Henningsen
2002-11-26  4:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2002-11-26  8:21 ` john slee
2002-11-26  8:35   ` Brad Hards
2002-11-26 19:59     ` Otto Wyss
2002-11-27  0:29       ` Alan Cox

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