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From: "Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>
To: "'Con Kolivas'" <kernel@kolivas.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Nick Piggin" <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	"'Chris Mason'" <mason@suse.com>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: RE: [PATCH RFC] smt nice introduces significant lock contention
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 14:54:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000201c6868f$14ddbfc0$df34030a@amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200606022316.41139.kernel@kolivas.org>

Con Kolivas wrote on Friday, June 02, 2006 6:17 AM
> On Friday 02 June 2006 20:30, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > On Friday 02 June 2006 18:56, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > And why do we lock all siblings in the other case, for that matter? (not
> > > that it makes much difference except on niagara today).
> >
> > If we spinlock (and don't trylock as you're proposing) we'd have to do a
> > double rq lock for each sibling. I guess half the time double_rq_lock will
> > only be locking one runqueue... with 32 runqueues we either try to lock all
> > 32 or lock 1.5 runqueues 32 times... ugh both are ugly.
> 
> Thinking some more on this it is also clear that the concept of per_cpu_gain  
> for smt is basically wrong once we get beyond straight forward 2 thread 
> hyperthreading. If we have more than 2 thread units per physical core, the 
> per cpu gain per logical core will decrease the more threads are running on 
> it. While it's always been obvious the gain per logical core is entirely 
> dependant on the type of workload and wont be a simple 25% increase in cpu 
> power, it is clear that even if we assume an "overall" increase in cpu for 
> each logical core added, there will be some non linear function relating 
> power increase to thread units used. :-|


In the context of having more than 2 sibling CPUs in a domain, doesn't the
current code also suffer from thunder hurd problem as well? When high
priority task goes to sleep, it will wake up *all* sibling sleepers and
then they will all fight for CPU resource, but potentially only one will win?


 

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-02 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-01 22:55 Chris Mason
2006-06-01 23:57 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02  1:59   ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02  2:28     ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02  3:55       ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02  4:18         ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-02  6:08           ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02  7:53             ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-02  8:17               ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02  8:28                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-02  8:34                   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02  8:56                     ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-02  9:17                       ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02  9:25                         ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02  9:31                           ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02  9:34                             ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02  9:53                               ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02 10:12                                 ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02 20:53                                   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02 22:15                                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02 22:19                                       ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02 22:31                                         ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02 22:58                                           ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-03  0:02                                             ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-03  0:08                                               ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-03  0:27                                                 ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02  9:36                       ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02 10:30                       ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02 13:16                         ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02 21:54                           ` Chen, Kenneth W [this message]
2006-06-02 22:04                             ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02 22:14                       ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02 10:19                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02 20:59                     ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02  8:38               ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02  8:24           ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02  8:31         ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02  8:50         ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02  2:35     ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-06-02  3:04       ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02  3:23         ` Con Kolivas

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