From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261241AbVFJVTD (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:19:03 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261250AbVFJVTD (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:19:03 -0400 Received: from linuxwireless.org.ve.carpathiahost.net ([66.117.45.234]:18573 "EHLO linuxwireless.org.ve.carpathiahost.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261241AbVFJVS6 (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:18:58 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Alejandro Bonilla" To: "'Lee Revell'" Cc: "'kernel list'" Subject: RE: ipw2100: firmware problem Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:18:54 -0600 Message-ID: <003201c56e02$025d0e10$600cc60a@amer.sykes.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1118437639.6423.65.camel@mindpipe> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > Riiiight. It could be. Or it could be that no where in the > world I have seen > > something where the device would be disabled by default > without notifying > > the user. Why would you Mute the driver? Is the driver that > bad, that the > > developers would rather Mute the sound card, just in case > if the sound cards > > starts making noises and shit when the driver is loaded? > > > > Userspace should handle it, doing this in the kernel is bloat. I Agreed to this since 8 AM. > > My Debian system initializes the mixer settings to a sane state just > fine when the alsasound init script is run. Maybe you need a better > distro. I use Debian. > > Users who compile ALSA from source are expected to know what they are > doing. And, if you watch the "make install" output, it > prints a big fat > warning that all mixer controls are muted by default. Who said I did it from source? > > > You are moving to another topic. Let's drop it. > > Agreed, but it was your OT rant that changed the topic... > > Lee dropped. .Alejandro