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From: Amit Daniel Kachhap <amit.kachhap@arm.com>
To: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Kristina Martsenko <kristina.martsenko@arm.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	Ramana Radhakrishnan <ramana.radhakrishnan@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 4/5] KVM: arm64: Add capability to advertise ptrauth for guest
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:09:02 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0070b1c2-07d6-7472-1bbc-c252710f6ca3@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190416163212.GX3567@e103592.cambridge.arm.com>

Hi,

On 4/16/19 10:02 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 08:50:35AM +0530, Amit Daniel Kachhap wrote:
>> This patch advertises the capability of two cpu feature called address
>> pointer authentication and generic pointer authentication. These
>> capabilities depend upon system support for pointer authentication and
>> VHE mode.
>>
>> The current arm64 KVM partially implements pointer authentication and
>> support of address/generic authentication are tied together. However,
>> separate ABI requirements for both of them is added so that any future
>> isolated implementation will not require any ABI changes.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Amit Daniel Kachhap <amit.kachhap@arm.com>
>> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
>> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
>> Cc: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>
>> Cc: kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
>> ---
>> Changes since v8:
>> *  Keep the capability check same for the 2 vcpu ptrauth features. [Dave Martin]
>>
>>   Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt | 2 ++
>>   arch/arm64/kvm/reset.c            | 5 +++++
>>   include/uapi/linux/kvm.h          | 2 ++
>>   3 files changed, 9 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt b/Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt
>> index 9d202f4..56021d0 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt
>> @@ -2756,9 +2756,11 @@ Possible features:
>>   	- KVM_ARM_VCPU_PTRAUTH_ADDRESS: Enables Address Pointer authentication
>>   	  for the CPU and supported only on arm64 architecture.
>>   	  Must be requested if KVM_ARM_VCPU_PTRAUTH_GENERIC is also requested.
>> +	  Depends on KVM_CAP_ARM_PTRAUTH_ADDRESS.
> 
> What if KVM_CAP_ARM_PTRAUTH_ADDRESS is absent and
> KVM_ARM_VCPU_PTRAUTH_GENERIC is requested?  By these rules, we have a
> contradiction: userspace both must request and must not request
> KVM_ARM_VCPU_PTRAUTH_ADDRESS.
> 
> We could qualify as follows:
> 
> 	Depends on KVM_CAP_ARM_PTRAUTH_ADDRESS.
> 	Must be requested if KVM_CAP_ARM_PTRAUTH_ADDRESS is present and
> 	KVM_ARM_VCPU_PTRAUTH_GENERIC is also requested.
ok agree. This makes it clear.
> 
>>   	- KVM_ARM_VCPU_PTRAUTH_GENERIC: Enables Generic Pointer authentication
>>   	  for the CPU and supported only on arm64 architecture.
>>   	  Must be requested if KVM_ARM_VCPU_PTRAUTH_ADDRESS is also requested.
>> +	  Depends on KVM_CAP_ARM_PTRAUTH_GENERIC.
> 
> Similarly.
> 
> Or, we go back to having a single cap and a single feature, and add
> more caps/features later on if we decide it's possible to support
> address/generic auth separately later on.
> 
> Otherwise, we end up with complex rules that can't be tested.  This is a
> high price to pay for forwards compatibility: userspace's conformance to
> the rules can't be fully tested, so there's a fair chance it won't work
> properly anyway when hardware/KVM with just one auth type appears.
> 
> [...]
> 
> Thoughts?
I agree that single cpufeature/capability is a simple solution to 
implement. The bifurcation of feature was done to reflect the different 
ID register split up.

But the h/w implementation provides a same EL2 exception trap for both 
the features and hence current implementation ties both of the features 
together. I guess in future if this is limitation goes away then one 
auth type is possible. Here I am not sure if the future h/w will retain 
this merged exception trap and add 2 new separate exception trap in 
addition to it.

I guess it will be probably simple split-up of this merged exception 
trap. In this case there won't be any ABI change required as per current 
implementation.

Thanks,
Amit Daniel


> 
> Cheers
> ---Dave
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-17  9:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-12  3:20 [PATCH v9 0/5] Add ARMv8.3 pointer authentication for kvm guest Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-04-12  3:20 ` [PATCH v9 1/5] KVM: arm64: Add a vcpu flag to control ptrauth for guest Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-04-16 16:30   ` Dave Martin
2019-04-17  8:35   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-04-17 13:08     ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-04-17 14:19       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-04-17 14:52         ` Dave Martin
2019-04-17 15:54           ` Marc Zyngier
2019-04-17 17:20             ` Dave Martin
2019-04-18  8:48               ` Marc Zyngier
2019-04-12  3:20 ` [PATCH v9 2/5] KVM: arm/arm64: context-switch ptrauth registers Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-04-17  9:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-04-17 14:24     ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-04-17 14:39       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-04-12  3:20 ` [PATCH v9 3/5] KVM: arm64: Add userspace flag to enable pointer authentication Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-04-16 16:31   ` Dave Martin
2019-04-17  8:17     ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-04-12  3:20 ` [PATCH v9 4/5] KVM: arm64: Add capability to advertise ptrauth for guest Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-04-16 16:32   ` Dave Martin
2019-04-17  9:39     ` Amit Daniel Kachhap [this message]
2019-04-17 15:22       ` Dave Martin
2019-04-12  3:20 ` [kvmtool PATCH v9 5/5] KVM: arm/arm64: Add a vcpu feature for pointer authentication Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-04-16 16:32   ` Dave Martin
2019-04-17 12:36     ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-04-17 15:38       ` Dave Martin

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