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From: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>
To: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Lan Tianyu <tianyu.lan@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/9] iommu: Introduce iommu do invalidate API function
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 18:07:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00a5fe10-98bb-f018-06b6-29af22d014eb@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170628090952.0bebd2b3@jacob-builder>

On 28/06/17 17:09, Jacob Pan wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 12:08:23 +0200
> Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 12:47:57PM -0700, Jacob Pan wrote:
>>> From: "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@linux.intel.com>
>>>
>>> When a SVM capable device is assigned to a guest, the first level
>>> page tables are owned by the guest and the guest PASID table
>>> pointer is linked to the device context entry of the physical IOMMU.
>>>
>>> Host IOMMU driver has no knowledge of caching structure updates
>>> unless the guest invalidation activities are passed down to the
>>> host. The primary usage is derived from emulated IOMMU in the
>>> guest, where QEMU can trap invalidation activities before pass them
>>> down the host/physical IOMMU. There are IOMMU architectural
>>> specific actions need to be taken which requires the generic APIs
>>> introduced in this patch to have opaque data in the
>>> tlb_invalidate_info argument.  
>>
>> Which "IOMMU architectural specific actions" are you thinking of?
>>
> construction of queued invalidation descriptors, then submit them to
> the IOMMU QI interface.
>>> +int iommu_invalidate(struct iommu_domain *domain,
>>> +		struct device *dev, struct tlb_invalidate_info
>>> *inv_info) +{
>>> +	int ret = 0;
>>> +
>>> +	if (unlikely(!domain->ops->invalidate))
>>> +		return -ENODEV;
>>> +
>>> +	ret = domain->ops->invalidate(domain, dev, inv_info);
>>> +
>>> +	return ret;
>>> +}
>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(iommu_invalidate);  
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> +struct tlb_invalidate_info {
>>> +	__u32	model;
>>> +	__u32	length;
>>> +	__u8	opaque[];
>>> +};  
>>
>> This interface is aweful. It requires the user of a generic api to
>> know details about the implementation behind to do anything useful.
>>
>> Please explain in more detail why this is needed. My feeling is that
>> we can make this more generic with a small set of invalidation
>> functions in the iommu-api.
>>
> My thinking was that via configuration control, there will be unlikely
> any mixed IOMMU models between pIOMMU and vIOMMU. We could have just
> model specific data pass through layers of SW (QEMU, VFIO) for
> performance reasons. We do have an earlier hybrid version that has
> generic data and opaque raw data. Would the below work for all IOMMU
> models?

For reference, this was also discussed in the initial posting of the series:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-05/msg03452.html

At least for ARM SMMUv2 and v3, I think the invalidation format you
propose should be sufficient, although "device_selective" should probably
be "domain_selective". And maybe a flag field could contain relatively
generic hints such as "only invalidate leaf table when page_selective".

Thanks,
Jean

> https://www.spinics.net/lists/kvm/msg148798.html
> 
> struct tlb_invalidate_info
> {
>         __u32   model;  /* Vendor number */
>         __u8 granularity
> #define DEVICE_SELECTVIE_INV    (1 << 0)
> #define PAGE_SELECTIVE_INV      (1 << 0)
> #define PASID_SELECTIVE_INV     (1 << 1)
>         __u32 pasid;
>         __u64 addr;
>         __u64 size;
> 
>         /* Since IOMMU format has already been validated for this table,
>            the IOMMU driver knows that the following structure is in a
>            format it knows */
>         __u8 opaque[];
> };
> 
>>
>>
>> 	Joerg
>>
> 
> [Jacob Pan]
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> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/iommu
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-28 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-27 19:47 [RFC 0/9] IOMMU driver support for shared virtual memory virtualization Jacob Pan
2017-06-27 19:47 ` [PATCH 1/9] iommu: Introduce bind_pasid_table API function Jacob Pan
2017-06-28  9:57   ` Joerg Roedel
2017-06-27 19:47 ` [PATCH 2/9] iommu/vt-d: add bind_pasid_table function Jacob Pan
2017-06-28 10:02   ` Joerg Roedel
2017-07-05  7:38   ` Tian, Kevin
2017-06-27 19:47 ` [PATCH 3/9] iommu: Introduce iommu do invalidate API function Jacob Pan
2017-06-28 10:08   ` Joerg Roedel
2017-06-28 16:09     ` Jacob Pan
2017-06-28 17:07       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker [this message]
2017-07-05  7:57         ` Tian, Kevin
2017-07-05 12:42           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-07-26  9:02           ` Joerg Roedel
2017-06-27 19:47 ` [PATCH 4/9] iommu/vt-d: Add iommu do invalidate function Jacob Pan
2017-06-27 19:47 ` [PATCH 5/9] iommu: Introduce fault notifier API Jacob Pan
2017-06-28 10:16   ` Joerg Roedel
2017-06-28 16:16     ` Jacob Pan
2017-06-27 19:48 ` [PATCH 6/9] iommu/vt-d: track device with pasid table bond to a guest Jacob Pan
2017-06-27 19:48 ` [PATCH 7/9] iommu/dmar: notify unrecoverable faults Jacob Pan
2017-06-27 19:48 ` [PATCH 8/9] iommu/intel-svm: notify page request to guest Jacob Pan
2017-06-27 19:48 ` [PATCH 9/9] iommu/intel-svm: replace dev ops with generic fault notifier Jacob Pan
2017-08-16  9:44 ` [RFC 0/9] IOMMU driver support for shared virtual memory virtualization Joerg Roedel
2017-08-16 15:14   ` Jacob Pan
2017-08-16 16:23     ` Joerg Roedel

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