From: "Kaigai Kohei" <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
To: "Stephen Smalley" <sds@epoch.ncsc.mil>
Cc: "SELinux-ML(Eng)" <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>,
"Linux Kernel ML(Eng)" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"James Morris" <jmorris@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: RCU issue with SELinux (Re: SELINUX performance issues)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:07:58 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <011901c48c26$1c9c0790$f97d220a@linux.bs1.fc.nec.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1093526652.9280.104.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil>
Hi Stephen, thanks for your comments.
> > By this method, the decision-making is available irrespective of
> > the result of kmalloc(). Is it robustless?
> > The original implementation has too many lock contensitons in Big-SMP
> > environment. It is more positive to consider the method using RCU.
>
> Yes, that would address my concern. However, I'm still unclear as to
> why using RCU mandates that we migrate from preallocated nodes to
> dynamic allocation. I certainly agree that the existing global spinlock
> doesn't scale.
When avc_reclaim_node() is called, one or some nodes are reclaimed
in both approachs(spinlock/RCU).
But we can't use the reclaimed nodes immediately in RCU-approach,
because it can't guarantee that nobody refers the nodes.
(These nodes are released actually after non-deterministic period.)
The success of avc_reclaim_node() does not mean that we can hold
an avc_node object immediately!
Therefore, we need to allocate a new avc_node object by kmalloc().
In original spinlock implementation, the reclaimed node is chained
to the 'avc_node_freelist' under the spinlock. Thus, we can use
the reclaimed node immediately.
Indeed, I had considered the RCU-approach with pre-allocation,
but I faced to the above difficult problem, and gave up.
Then, I make it with kmalloc() alternatively, so fine.
> > Please wait for a patch, thanks.
>
> Thanks for working on this. Could you also supply updated performance
> data when you have a newer patch? Thanks.
OK, the benchmark results will also be updated.
Thanks.
--------
Kai Gai <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-27 11:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-16 9:33 Kaigai Kohei
2004-08-16 15:19 ` James Morris
2004-08-20 13:36 ` Kaigai Kohei
2004-08-20 14:53 ` James Morris
2004-08-24 7:27 ` Kaigai Kohei
2004-08-24 13:24 ` James Morris
2004-08-25 9:51 ` Kaigai Kohei
2004-08-25 18:31 ` James Morris
2004-08-25 9:52 ` [PATCH]atomic_inc_return() for i386/x86_64 (Re: RCU issue with SELinux) Kaigai Kohei
2004-08-20 17:31 ` RCU issue with SELinux (Re: SELINUX performance issues) Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-08-20 18:15 ` James Morris
2004-08-20 20:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-08-20 20:35 ` James Morris
2004-08-24 7:27 ` Kaigai Kohei
[not found] ` <1093014789.16585.186.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil>
2004-08-24 7:25 ` Kaigai Kohei
2004-08-24 15:37 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-08-25 9:51 ` Kaigai Kohei
2004-08-25 15:50 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-08-25 16:11 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-08-26 7:53 ` Kaigai Kohei
2004-08-26 13:24 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-08-27 11:07 ` Kaigai Kohei [this message]
2004-08-30 11:17 ` [PATCH]SELinux performance improvement by RCU (Re: RCU issue with SELinux) Kaigai Kohei
2004-08-30 15:35 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-08-30 16:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-08-31 4:33 ` Kaigai Kohei
2004-08-31 16:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-08-31 15:33 ` James Morris
2004-08-24 23:02 ` RCU issue with SELinux (Re: SELINUX performance issues) Paul E. McKenney
2004-08-25 9:51 ` Kaigai Kohei
2004-08-25 17:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
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