From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261917AbUBWLgQ (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:36:16 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261916AbUBWLgQ (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:36:16 -0500 Received: from smtp3.att.ne.jp ([165.76.15.139]:25008 "EHLO smtp3.att.ne.jp") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261915AbUBWLgO (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:36:14 -0500 Message-ID: <015d01c3fa01$32c15c30$34ee4ca5@DIAMONDLX60> From: "Norman Diamond" To: "Robin Rosenberg" Cc: "Jamie Lokier" , References: <18de01c3f93f$dc6d91d0$b5ee4ca5@DIAMONDLX60> <20040222204541.GA26793@mail.shareable.org> <008d01c3f99c$9033e3c0$34ee4ca5@DIAMONDLX60> <200402230710.12549.robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com> Subject: Re: UTF-8 filenames Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:34:57 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Robin Rosenberg replied to me: > > Of course. Perhaps my use of reductio al absurdum was unclear. Actually Mark Hahn got me on that, it should be ad, but I get too many ads already. Now reminiscing about the days before I posted to LKML, because my inbox was less than 75% spams in those days. > > I was trying to show that UTF-8, despite its sanity, is not universally > > agreeable. The actual reason is because it came late to the scene > > (around 20 years ago) and it is not backwards compatible. > > Even later, it's from 1992 I believe Oh, then it was even later to the scene than I thought. > and a standard even later. That is long after we went from national > variants of ASCII to ISO-Latin-1. If I recall it correctly it was the > years around 1987 that we started having multiple encodings fo text. SJIS and EUC both existed before 1987.