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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] KVM: x86: fix usage of kvm_lock in set_nx_huge_pages()
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 01:08:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0188baf2-0bff-4b08-af1d-21815d4e3b42@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z5QhGndjNwYdnIZF@google.com>

On 1/25/25 00:44, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>> I did try a long SRCU critical section and it was unreviewable. It
>> ends up a lot less manageable than just making the lock a leaf,
>> especially as the lock hierarchy spans multiple subsystems (static
>> key, KVM, cpufreq---thanks CPU hotplug lock...).
> 
> I'm not following.  If __kvmclock_cpufreq_notifier() and set_nx_huge_pages()
> switch to SRCU, then the deadlock goes away (it might even go away if just one
> of those two switches). [...] It would be single use in the it only
> protects pure reader of vm_list, but there are plenty of those users.

Yes, single use in the sense that only set_nx_huge_pages() really needs 
it.  kvm_lock doesn't produce any noticeable contention and as you noted 
sometimes you really need it even in pure readers.

> SRCU readers would only interact with kvm_destroy_vm() from a locking perspective,
> and if that's problematic then we would already have a plethora of issues.

Ah yeah, I missed that you cannot hold any lock when calling 
kvm_put_kvm().  So the waiting side is indeed a leaf and cannot block 
someone else.

Still from your patch (thanks!) I don't really like the special cases on 
taking SRCU vs. kvm_lock... It really seems like a job for a mutex or 
rwsem.  It keeps the complexity in the one place that is different (i.e. 
where a lock is taken inside the iteration) and everything else can just 
iterate normally.

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-25  0:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-24 19:11 [RFC PATCH 0/2] KVM: x86: Strengthen locking rules for kvm_lock Paolo Bonzini
2025-01-24 19:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: x86: fix usage of kvm_lock in set_nx_huge_pages() Paolo Bonzini
2025-01-24 20:11   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-24 22:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-01-24 23:44       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-25  0:08         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2025-01-25  0:44           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-27 17:27             ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-01-27 17:56               ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-01-27 18:01               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-27 18:17                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-01-24 19:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] Documentation: explain issues with taking locks inside kvm_lock Paolo Bonzini

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