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From: William Zhang <william.zhang@broadcom.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Linux SPI List <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Broadcom Kernel List <bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com>
Cc: anand.gore@broadcom.com, tomer.yacoby@broadcom.com,
	dan.beygelman@broadcom.com, joel.peshkin@broadcom.com,
	f.fainelli@gmail.com, jonas.gorski@gmail.com,
	kursad.oney@broadcom.com, dregan@mail.com,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/16] dt-bindings: spi: Add bcmbca-hsspi controller support
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 16:59:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0194391a-6aef-3a7d-0037-1f87e12a6b6e@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b246a81f-e465-5e52-f0ce-65e0a82fc3e1@linaro.org>

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On 01/10/2023 12:40 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 09/01/2023 20:13, William Zhang wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 01/09/2023 12:56 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> On 09/01/2023 09:27, William Zhang wrote:
>>>> Hi Krzysztof,
>>>>
>>>> On 01/08/2023 06:51 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 06/01/2023 21:07, William Zhang wrote:
>>>>>> The new Broadcom Broadband BCMBCA SoCs includes a updated HSSPI
>>>>>> controller. Add a new compatible string and required fields for the new
>>>>>> driver.  Also add myself and Kursad as the maintainers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: William Zhang <william.zhang@broadcom.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     .../bindings/spi/brcm,bcm63xx-hsspi.yaml      | 84 +++++++++++++++++--
>>>>>>     1 file changed, 78 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/brcm,bcm63xx-hsspi.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/brcm,bcm63xx-hsspi.yaml
>>>>>> index 45f1417b1213..56e69d4a1faf 100644
>>>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/brcm,bcm63xx-hsspi.yaml
>>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/brcm,bcm63xx-hsspi.yaml
>>>>>> @@ -4,22 +4,51 @@
>>>>>>     $id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/spi/brcm,bcm63xx-hsspi.yaml#
>>>>>>     $schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
>>>>>>     
>>>>>> -title: Broadcom BCM6328 High Speed SPI controller
>>>>>> +title: Broadcom Broadband SoC High Speed SPI controller
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>     maintainers:
>>>>>> +
>>>>>
>>>>> Drop blank line.
>>>> will fix in  v2.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> +  - William Zhang <william.zhang@broadcom.com>
>>>>>> +  - Kursad Oney <kursad.oney@broadcom.com>
>>>>>>       - Jonas Gorski <jonas.gorski@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>>     
>>>>>> +description: |
>>>>>> +  Broadcom Broadband SoC supports High Speed SPI master controller since the
>>>>>> +  early MIPS based chips such as BCM6328 and BCM63268.  This controller was
>>>>>> +  carried over to recent ARM based chips, such as BCM63138, BCM4908 and BCM6858.
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +  It has a limitation that can not keep the chip select line active between
>>>>>> +  the SPI transfers within the same SPI message. This can terminate the
>>>>>> +  transaction to some SPI devices prematurely. The issue can be worked around by
>>>>>> +  either the controller's prepend mode or using the dummy chip select
>>>>>> +  workaround. This controller uses the compatible string brcm,bcm6328-hsspi.
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +  The newer SoCs such as BCM6756, BCM4912 and BCM6855 include an updated SPI
>>>>>> +  controller that add the capability to allow the driver to control chip select
>>>>>> +  explicitly. This solves the issue in the old controller. This new controller
>>>>>> +  uses the compatible string brcm,bcmbca-hsspi.
>>>>>> +
>>>>>>     properties:
>>>>>>       compatible:
>>>>>> -    const: brcm,bcm6328-hsspi
>>>>>> +    enum:
>>>>>> +      - brcm,bcm6328-hsspi
>>>>>> +      - brcm,bcmbca-hsspi
>>>>>
>>>>> bca seems quite unspecific. Your description above mentions several
>>>>> model numbers and "bca" is not listed as model. Compatibles cannot be
>>>>> generic.
>>>> "bca" is not model number, rather it is a group (broadband carrier
>>>> access) of chip that share the same spi host controller IP. Agree it is
>>>> not particularly specific but it differentiate from other broadcom spi
>>>> controller ip used by other groups.  We just don't have a specific name
>>>> for this spi host controller but can we treat bcmbca as the ip name?
>>>
>>> No, it is discouraged in such forms. Family or IP block compatibles
>>> should be prepended with a specific compatible. There were many issues
>>> when people insisted on generic or family compatibles...
>>>
>>>> Otherwise we will have to have a compatible string with chip model for
>>>> each SoC even they share the same IP. We already have more than ten of
>>>> SoCs and the list will increase.  I don't see this is a good solution too.
>>>
>>> You will have to do it anyway even with generic fallback, so I don't get
>>> what is here to gain... I also don't get why Broadcom should be here
>>> special, different than others. Why it is not a good solution for
>>> Broadcom SoCs but it is for others?
>>>
>> I saw a few other vendors like these qcom ones:
>>    qcom,spi-qup.yaml
>>        - qcom,spi-qup-v1.1.1 # for 8660, 8960 and 8064
>>        - qcom,spi-qup-v2.1.1 # for 8974 and later
>>        - qcom,spi-qup-v2.2.1 # for 8974 v2 and later
>>    qcom,spi-qup.yaml
>>        const: qcom,geni-spi
> 
> IP block version numbers are allowed when there is clear mapping between
> version and SoCs using it. This is the case for Qualcomm because there
> is such clear mapping documented and available for Qualcomm engineers
> and also some of us (although not public).
> 
>> I guess when individual who only has one particular board/chip and is
>> not aware of the IP family,  it is understandable to use the chip
>> specific compatible string.
> 
> Family of devices is not a versioned IP block.
> 
>> But when company works on it, we have the
>> visibility and access to all the chips and ip blocks in the family and
>> IMHO it is very reasonable to use the IP family name for the same IP as
>> these examples shows.
> 
> No, because family of devices is not a versioned IP block. I wrote
> before that families and wildcards are not allowed.
> 
>> Are you saying these are not good example to
>> follow?
> 
> It's nothing related to your case.
> 
>> What are the issues with generic or family compatibles?
>>   Could
>> you please elaborate?
> 
> They stop matching and some point and cause ABI breaks. We had several
> cases where engineer believed "I have here family of devices" and then
> later it turned out that the family is different.
> 
> 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>       reg:
>>>>>> -    maxItems: 1
>>>>>> +    items:
>>>>>> +      - description: main registers
>>>>>> +      - description: miscellaneous control registers
>>>>>> +    minItems: 1
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +  reg-names:
>>>>>> +    items:
>>>>>> +      - const: hsspi
>>>>>> +      - const: spim-ctrl
>>>>>
>>>>> This does not match reg
>>>> Do you mean it does not match the description?
>>>
>>> No. reg can be 1 item but you state reg-names cannot. These are always
>>> the same. If one is 1 item, second is as well.
>>>
>> I'll drop the "minItems: 1" from the reg property then.
> 
> Then it won't be correct, because it would mean two items are required
> always.
Ah you are right. Add minItems: 1 for reg-name then.
> 
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>       clocks:
>>>>>>         items:
>>>>>> -      - description: spi master reference clock
>>>>>> -      - description: spi master pll clock
>>>>>> +      - description: SPI master reference clock
>>>>>> +      - description: SPI master pll clock
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? You just added it in previous patch, didn't you?
>>>> The previous patch was just word to word conversion of the text file.  I
>>>> will update that patch to include this change.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>       clock-names:
>>>>>>         items:
>>>>>> @@ -29,12 +58,43 @@ properties:
>>>>>>       interrupts:
>>>>>>         maxItems: 1
>>>>>>     
>>>>>> +  brcm,use-cs-workaround:
>>>>>> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/flag
>>>>>> +    description: |
>>>>>> +      Enable dummy chip select workaround for SPI transfers that can not be
>>>>>> +      supported by the default controller's prepend mode, i.e. delay or cs
>>>>>> +      change needed between SPI transfers.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to describe what is the workaround.
>>>> Will do.
>>>>>
>>>>>> +
>>>>>>     required:
>>>>>>       - compatible
>>>>>>       - reg
>>>>>>       - clocks
>>>>>>       - clock-names
>>>>>> -  - interrupts
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +allOf:
>>>>>> +  - $ref: "spi-controller.yaml#"
>>>>>
>>>>> No quotes. How this is related to this patch?
>>>> Will remove quote and put it in patch 1.
>>>>>
>>>>>> +  - if:
>>>>>> +      properties:
>>>>>> +        compatible:
>>>>>> +          contains:
>>>>>> +            enum:
>>>>>> +              - brcm,bcm6328-hsspi
>>>>>> +    then:
>>>>>> +      properties:
>>>>>> +        reg:
>>>>>> +          minItems: 1
>>>>>
>>>>> Drop.
>>>>>
>>>>> reg-names now do not match.
>>>> Don't quite understand your comment. What do I need to drop and what is
>>>> not matched?
>>>
>>> You need to add constraints for reg-names, same way as for reg.
>>> Disallowing the reg-names also could work, but there won't be benefit in
>>> it. Better to have uniform DTS.
>>>
>> I agree it is better to have the uniform DTS but the situation here is
>> that the brcm,bcm6328-hsspi does not require reg name since there is
>> only one register needed and it was already used in many chip dts for
>> long time.  If I enforce it to have the corresponding reg name, that
> 
> No one told you to enforce to have a reg-names.
> 
>> could potentially break the compatibility of those old device if the
>> driver change to use reg name, right?
> 
> How compatibility is broken by some optional, unrelated property?
> 
I think I misunderstand what you said.  You basically want the reg-name 
minItem/maxItem constraints for brcm,bcm6328-hsspi compatible as well so 
it is consistent for all the compatibles? I was confused and thought it 
is not needed as reg-name is not required for brcm,bcm6328-hsspi compatible.

> Best regards,
> Krzysztof
> 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-11  1:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-06 20:07 [PATCH 00/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: driver and doc updates William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 01/16] dt-bindings: spi: Convert bcm63xx-hsspi bindings to json-schema William Zhang
2023-01-07 15:18   ` Rob Herring
2023-01-07 15:32   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-09  7:52     ` William Zhang
2023-01-09  8:48       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 02/16] dt-bindings: spi: Add bcmbca-hsspi controller support William Zhang
2023-01-08 14:51   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-09  8:27     ` William Zhang
2023-01-09  8:56       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-09 19:13         ` William Zhang
2023-01-10  8:40           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-10 22:18             ` Florian Fainelli
2023-01-11  1:08               ` William Zhang
2023-01-11  9:02               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-11 18:04                 ` William Zhang
2023-01-11 18:12                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-11 18:44                     ` William Zhang
2023-01-12  8:21                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-12 19:50                         ` William Zhang
2023-01-13  7:41                           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-14  3:17                             ` William Zhang
2023-01-15 14:31                               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-11  0:59             ` William Zhang [this message]
2023-01-11  9:01               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 03/16] dt-bindings: spi: Add spi peripheral specific property William Zhang
2023-01-06 21:14   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-07  3:27     ` William Zhang
2023-01-07 15:38       ` Rob Herring
2023-01-09  8:06         ` William Zhang
2023-01-09 19:19           ` Mark Brown
2023-01-09 20:18             ` William Zhang
2023-01-10 22:01               ` Mark Brown
2023-01-11 19:48                 ` William Zhang
2023-01-08 14:52   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-09  8:27     ` William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 04/16] ARM: dts: broadcom: bcmbca: Add spi controller node William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 05/16] arm64: " William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 06/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Endianness fix for ARM based SoC William Zhang
2023-01-07  7:44   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-07 21:21   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-07 21:52   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-07 23:23   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-11  6:33   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 07/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Add polling mode support William Zhang
2023-01-06 21:47   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-07  3:35     ` William Zhang
2023-01-09 19:06       ` Mark Brown
2023-01-09 20:10         ` William Zhang
2023-01-10 22:49           ` Mark Brown
2023-01-11 20:13             ` William Zhang
2023-01-11 22:41               ` Mark Brown
2023-01-11 22:57                 ` William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 08/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Handle cs_change correctly William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 09/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Fix multi-bit mode setting William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 10/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Make dummy cs workaround as an option William Zhang
2023-01-12 18:08   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-18 23:09     ` William Zhang
2023-01-19 13:09       ` Mark Brown
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 11/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Add prepend feature support William Zhang
2023-01-06 22:00   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-07  3:52     ` William Zhang
2023-01-09 19:31       ` Mark Brown
2023-01-09 20:43         ` William Zhang
2023-01-10 21:18           ` Mark Brown
2023-01-11 19:42             ` William Zhang
2023-01-12 16:57               ` Mark Brown
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 12/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Add clock gate disable option support William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 13/16] spi: spi-mem: Allow controller supporting mem_ops without exec_op William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 14/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: prepend: Disable spi mem dual io read op support William Zhang
2023-01-06 22:07   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-07  3:57     ` William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 15/16] spi: bcmbca-hsspi: Add driver for newer HSSPI controller William Zhang
2023-01-07 22:02   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-08  2:25   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 16/16] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for Broadcom Broadband SoC HS SPI drivers William Zhang

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