From: "Rok Papež" <rok.papez@lugos.si>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.4.18] Security: Process-Killer if machine get's out of memory
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:09:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <02032516090500.02095@strader.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16pE0U-00073m-00@the-village.bc.nu>
Hello Alan and Paul.
On Sunday 24 March 2002 20:50, Alan Cox wrote:
> > How does a process react that doesn't get no more memory?
>
> Thats up to the process. If a program doesn't handle malloc/mmap/etc
> failures then its junk anyway
Agreed 101%.
On Sunday 24 March 2002 21:43, Paul P Komkoff Jr wrote:
> Replying to Alan Cox:
> > Thats up to the process. If a program doesn't handle malloc/mmap/etc
> > failures then its junk anyway
>
> The recent junk I fighting with to take full advantage of overcommit
> accounting is squid.
> Very popular junk. Maybe rsync uses same 'secret technique' to handle
> malloc failures? :)))
>
> Btw. Overcommit handling not very good yet.
> Squid hits the limit, then bails out. Then shell script trying to start new
> instance of squid (actually trying to sleep before restart), but gets
> 'fork - cannot allocate memory'. seems that memory isn't dealloced
> from already exited process space :(
In all the code I've written I always check if malloc() and friends don't
succeed. In some instances the code can even handle this gracefully and
malloc failure doesn't cause a fatal application error.
Now if kernel kills my process it doesn't matter if I can handle the out of
memory condition or not. The kernel already made a decision for me instead of
my application... and never mind the data I have cached in applications
buffers... the kernel also decided it wasn't worth writing to a disk.
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Alan.. I would find it acceptable if a process is killed if it tries to
malloc() memory *after* a previous malloc has already failed and there is
still out-of-memory condition.
--
best regards,
Rok Papež.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-25 15:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-03-24 12:09 andreas
[not found] ` <3C9DC6D0.3080606@wanadoo.fr>
2002-03-24 13:24 ` Andreas Hartmann
[not found] ` <3C9DD653.8090701@wanadoo.fr>
2002-03-24 13:36 ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-03-24 13:30 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-24 14:08 ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-03-24 16:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 16:59 ` Andreas Hartmann
[not found] ` <3C9E48B8.9080707@ngforever.de>
2002-03-24 22:23 ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-03-24 15:58 ` Chris Swiedler
2002-03-24 16:57 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 16:59 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-03-24 17:45 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-24 17:57 ` Christian Bornträger
2002-03-24 18:01 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-24 18:03 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2002-03-24 18:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 18:37 ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-03-24 18:20 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 19:20 ` Itai Nahshon
2002-03-24 17:24 ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-03-24 18:22 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 18:23 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-03-24 19:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 19:48 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-03-24 20:39 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 18:32 ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-03-24 19:50 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 20:43 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-03-25 15:09 ` Rok Papež [this message]
2002-03-26 20:24 ` dean gaudet
2002-03-26 23:47 ` Alan Cox
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