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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] cleanup.h: Introduce DEFINE_INACTIVE_GUARD and activate_guard
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 14:14:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <025ea126-f6db-4988-b500-5fbee0a65a3e@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whef03dn8OWJ01L08hShVHCieVz7Rrzr1HJQOriVBvaDg@mail.gmail.com>

On 2024-09-02 14:10, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Sept 2024 at 08:43, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>> and Linus took objection to similar patterns. But perhaps my naming
>> wasn't right.
> 
> Well, more of a "this stuff is new, let's start very limited and very clear".
> 
> I'm not loving the inactive guard, but I did try to think of a better
> model for it, and I can't.  I absolutely hate the *example*, though:
> 
>    void func(bool a)
>    {
>          DEFINE_INACTIVE_GUARD(preempt_notrace, myguard);
> 
>          [...]
>          if (a) {
>                  might_sleep();
>                  activate_guard(preempt_notrace, myguard)();
>          }
>          [ protected code ]

Fair. I should have written something more like

   [ conditionally protected code ]

>    }
> 
> because that "protected code" obviously is *NOT* protected code. It's
> conditionally protected only in one situation.
> 
> Honestly, I still think the guard macros are new enough that we should
> strive to avoid them in complicated cases like this. And this *is*
> complicated. It *looks* simple, but when even the example that was
> given was pure and utter garbage, it's clearly not *actually* simple.
> 
> Once some code is sometimes protected, and sometimes isn't, and you
> have magic compiler stuff that *hides* it, I'm not sure we should use
> the magic compiler stuff.

I've tried my best to come up with a scheme which would be cleaner
than the "guard_if()" proposed by Peter, because I really hate it.

I'm perfectly fine going back to goto/labels for that function if we
cannot agree on a clean way to express what is needed there.

Thanks,

Mathieu


-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com


      reply	other threads:[~2024-09-02 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-28 14:37 [PATCH v1 0/2] cleanup.h: Introduce DEFINE_INACTIVE_GUARD()/activate_guard() Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-08-28 14:37 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] cleanup.h guard: Rename DEFINE_ prefix to DECLARE_ Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-08-28 14:37 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] cleanup.h: Introduce DEFINE_INACTIVE_GUARD and activate_guard Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-02 15:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-02 18:08     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-02 18:46       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-03 13:42         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-03 19:00           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-06 22:05             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-02 18:10     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-02 18:14       ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]

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