From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Yu Peng <pengyu@kylinos.cn>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking/osq_lock: Use READ_ONCE() for node->prev
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 11:00:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <02ed4276-4a56-444d-af07-4e86df8150ed@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260518152925.10ab8fab@pumpkin>
On 5/18/26 10:29 AM, David Laight wrote:
> On Mon, 18 May 2026 11:29:53 +0100
> Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2026 at 09:32:55AM +0800, Yu Peng wrote:
>>> osq_lock() consults node->prev in the vcpu_is_preempted() heuristic while
>>> a concurrent predecessor may update it via WRITE_ONCE(next->prev, prev)
>>> during unqueue.
>>>
>>> This read only affects the decision to abort optimistic spinning; stale
>>> values do not affect queue linkage or lock correctness. Use READ_ONCE()
>>> to mark the shared read and match the concurrent WRITE_ONCE() update.
>>>
>>> No functional change intended.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Yu Peng <pengyu@kylinos.cn>
>>> ---
>>> kernel/locking/osq_lock.c | 2 +-
>>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/kernel/locking/osq_lock.c b/kernel/locking/osq_lock.c
>>> index b4233dc2c2b04..db4545e7bb72c 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/locking/osq_lock.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/locking/osq_lock.c
>>> @@ -144,7 +144,7 @@ bool osq_lock(struct optimistic_spin_queue *lock)
>>> * polling, be careful.
>>> */
>>> if (smp_cond_load_relaxed(&node->locked, VAL || need_resched() ||
>>> - vcpu_is_preempted(node_cpu(node->prev))))
>>> + vcpu_is_preempted(node_cpu(READ_ONCE(node->prev)))))
>>> return true;
>> Hmm, I wonder whether this is actually sufficient...
>>
>> Architectures with relaxed memory models won't order plain reads to
>> different addresses, so the read of 'node->locked' is unordered wrt the
>> read of 'node->prev' in this condition. Given that we're using
>> smp_cond_load_relaxed(), can we end up using a value of 'node->prev'
>> that was loaded in a previous iteration of the loop?
>>
>> I'd be much more comfortable if this was smp_cond_load_acquire(), in
>> addition to the READ_ONCE() that you are proposing.
> I've got a patch 'pending' for this file that tidied some things up.
> In particular it saves the cpu numbers not the per-cpu addresses.
> So the above check doesn't bounce a cache line.
> Perhaps it is time to resend it.
>
> Note that the vpu_is_preempted() path is horribly expensive and
> can't actually work reliably.
> And can't work at all on arm where 'mwait' (equivalent) is used.
I believe the vcpu_is_preempted() check is only enabled in x86,
loongarch, powerpc and s390. It is disabled (always returns false) in
other arches. Yes, the vcpu_is_preempted() check, if implemented, can be
expensive. Perhaps we can reduce the frequency that it is being called.
Cheers,
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-18 15:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-30 1:32 Yu Peng
2026-05-18 10:29 ` Will Deacon
2026-05-18 14:29 ` David Laight
2026-05-18 15:00 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2026-05-18 21:46 ` David Laight
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