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From: Iker <iker@computer.org>
To: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [lkml] RE: self piping and context switching
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:56:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03f501c379a2$b14b49b0$3203a8c0@duke> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKCECHGIAA.davids@webmaster.com>

More specifically, I was wondering if the write to the pipe or the call back
into poll involved anything that might prompt the scheduler to replace the
thread in this scenario.

> It's reasonable to expect that this will be the most common case and the
> one to optimize. It is unreasonable to fail if this doesn't happen, since
> it's not guaranteed to happen. Note that if by "without a context switch"
> you really mean without another thread getting a chance to run, then it is
> totally unreasonable.

Are you referring to transitions to/from kernel space? If so, wouldn't the
write
on the pipe and the call to poll both result in transitions?

Regards,
Iker


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>
To: "Iker" <iker@computer.org>; <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:04 PM
Subject: [lkml] RE: self piping and context switching


>
> > Assume a thread is monitoring a set of fd's which include both ends of
> > a pipe (using poll, for example). If the thread writes to the pipe (in
> > order to notify itself for whatever reason) is it reasonable to expect
> > that it will be able to return to its poll loop and get the event
> > without a context switch? (provided it quickly returns to the poll
> > loop).
>
> It's reasonable to expect that this will be the most common case and the
> one to optimize. It is unreasonable to fail if this doesn't happen, since
> it's not guaranteed to happen. Note that if by "without a context switch"
> you really mean without another thread getting a chance to run, then it is
> totally unreasonable. On SMP systems and with hyper-threading, threads can
> run concurrently.
>
> DS
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-13  2:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-13  1:19 Iker
2003-09-13  2:04 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13  2:56   ` Iker [this message]
2003-09-13  3:31     ` [lkml] " David Schwartz
2003-09-13 17:10     ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 19:37       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-15 23:36 ` Robert White

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