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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: "Pratyush Anand" <panand@redhat.com>,
	김동현 <austinkernel.kim@gmail.com>,
	john.stultz@linaro.org, "Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RCU stall when using function_graph
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 11:38:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03ff85d7-ccee-6aa1-8652-1b416571bfbb@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170810213939.GV3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 10/08/2017 23:39, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 11:45:09AM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:

[ ... ]

>> Nothing coming in mind but may be worth to mention the slowness of the
>> CPU is the aggravating factor. In particular I was able to reproduce the
>> issue by setting to the min CPU frequency. With the ondemand governor,
>> we can have the frequency high (hence enough CPU power) at the moment we
>> set the function_graph because another CPU is loaded (and both CPUs are
>> sharing the same clock line). The system became stuck at the moment the
>> other CPU went idle with the lowest frequency. That introduced
>> randomness in the issue and made hard to figure out why the RCU stall
>> was happening.
> 
> Adding this, then?

Yes, sure.

Thanks Paul.

  -- Daniel

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> commit f7d9ce95064f76be583c775fac32076fa59f1617
> Author: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Date:   Thu Aug 10 14:33:17 2017 -0700
> 
>     documentation: Slow systems can stall RCU grace periods
>     
>     If a fast system has a worst-case grace-period duration of (say) ten
>     seconds, then running the same workload on a system ten times as slow
>     will get you an RCU CPU stall warning given default stall-warning
>     timeout settings.  This commit therefore adds this possibility to
>     stallwarn.txt.
>     
>     Reported-by: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
>     Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt b/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt
> index 21b8913acbdf..238acbd94917 100644
> --- a/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt
> @@ -70,6 +70,12 @@ o	A periodic interrupt whose handler takes longer than the time
>  	considerably longer than normal, which can in turn result in
>  	RCU CPU stall warnings.
>  
> +o	Testing a workload on a fast system, tuning the stall-warning
> +	timeout down to just barely avoid RCU CPU stall warnings, and then
> +	running the same workload with the same stall-warning timeout on a
> +	slow system.  Note that thermal throttling and on-demand governors
> +	can cause a single system to be sometimes fast and sometimes slow!
> +
>  o	A hardware or software issue shuts off the scheduler-clock
>  	interrupt on a CPU that is not in dyntick-idle mode.  This
>  	problem really has happened, and seems to be most likely to
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-11  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-01 22:04 Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-01 22:15 ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-02  0:12   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-02 12:42     ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-02 13:07       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-03  2:40         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-03 11:41         ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-03 12:44           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-03 14:38             ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]               ` <CAOoBcBXo-=VYy2+TYEp=8+WSkOpDBr1x6uY=-r_GnTFKctXndQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <CAOoBcBVKpQkAVXji5qQu8r8GErqxpy9Ae9N97NhGpOQPgXudZg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CAOoBcBU00VRXmrNNEOjJHgXf9BimxKYOorJC0d3766mNdda=Bg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-08-06 17:02                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-09  9:13                       ` Pratyush Anand
2017-08-09 12:58                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-09 13:28                           ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-09 14:40                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-09 15:51                               ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-09 17:22                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-10  9:45                                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-10 21:39                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-11  9:38                                       ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2017-08-15 13:29                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-16  8:42                                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-16 14:04                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-16 16:32                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 16:41                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-16 17:58                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-30 22:07                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-02 16:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-02 12:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
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2017-08-01 21:07 Daniel Lezcano

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