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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: "Xin Li (Intel)" <xin@zytor.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	peterz@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/1] x86/fred: Clear the WFE bit in missing-ENDBRANCH #CP
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:35:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <04674df0-a026-42d1-aacf-293f3018329f@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240911231929.2632698-1-xin@zytor.com>

On 12/09/2024 12:19 am, Xin Li (Intel) wrote:
> The WFE, i.e., WAIT_FOR_ENDBRANCH, bit in the augmented CS of FRED
> stack frame is set to 1 in missing-ENDBRANCH #CP exceptions.
>
> The CPU will generate another missing-ENDBRANCH #CP if the WFE bit
> is left as 1, because the indirect branch tracker will be set in
> the WAIT_FOR_ENDBRANCH state upon completion of the following ERETS
> instruction and the CPU will restart from the IP that just caused a
> previous missing-ENDBRANCH #CP.
>
> Clear the WFE bit to avoid dead looping in missing-ENDBRANCH #CP.
>
> Signed-off-by: Xin Li (Intel) <xin@zytor.com>

Ah - good.  Finally some evidence that this hole in CET has been plugged
by FRED.

However, I'd suggest describing it differently.


By definition, all missing-ENDBRANCH #CPs are a result of WFE && !ENDBR.

But, in original CET under IDT delivery, any transfer for
interrupt/exception/etc that does not change privilege will clobber the
WFE state because MSR_{U,S}_CET.WFE is intentionally set by microcode so
as to expect to find an ENDBR at the interrupt/exception/syscall entrypoint.

In practice, this means interrupts and exceptions hitting the kernel, or
user interrupts, loose the WFE state of the interrupted context.  And
yes, this means that a well timed interrupt (to the precise instruction
boundary) will let an attacker sneak a bad function pointer past the
CET-IBT enforcement.

In FRED, the WFE state of the interrupted context (even if it is the
same privilege) is preserved and restored, in order to close this hole.

Therefore, the intentional #CP selfchecks need to clear WFE when they
are deemed to have succeeded, now that FRED is causing the state not to
get lost.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-11 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-11 23:19 Xin Li (Intel)
2024-09-11 23:35 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2024-09-11 23:44   ` Xin Li
2024-09-15 18:17   ` Xin Li
2024-09-16  9:16     ` Andrew Cooper
2024-09-12  0:22 ` Dave Hansen
2024-09-12  8:53   ` Xin Li
2024-09-12 13:13     ` Andrew Cooper
2024-09-12  7:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-12  8:25   ` Xin Li

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