I dunno what you have but here in the uk, we like to be arseholes[joke], no then... My bandwidth bills are kept low, and I prefer the sofa to that seat thing I have, I go online to download/send patches, and its £728 cheaper. Cheers, Dean. On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:55:20 -0300 (BRT) Rik van Riel wrote: