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From: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-sound@vger.kernel.org,
	Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: pcm: Convert multiple {get/put}_user to user_access_begin/user_access_end()
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 15:48:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <051e9722-44ad-4547-af5d-3e42c8cfe8d9@csgroup.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250610205358.07b1cc05@pumpkin>



Le 10/06/2025 à 21:53, David Laight a écrit :
> On Sat,  7 Jun 2025 13:37:42 +0200
> Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu> wrote:
> 
>> With user access protection (Called SMAP on x86 or KUAP on powerpc)
>> each and every call to get_user() or put_user() performs heavy
>> operations to unlock and lock kernel access to userspace.
>>
>> To avoid that, perform user accesses by blocks using
>> user_access_begin/user_access_end() and unsafe_get_user()/
>> unsafe_put_user() and alike.
> 
> Did you consider using masked_user_access_begin() ?
> It removes a conditional branch and lfence as well.

Thanks, was not aware of that new function, allthought I remember some 
discussion about masked user access.

Looks like this is specific to x86 at the time being. I would have 
expected that to be transparent to the consumer. Allthought looking at 
strncpy_from_user() I understand the benefit of keeping it separate.

However is it worth the effort and the ugliness of having to do (copied 
from fs/select.c):

		if (can_do_masked_user_access())
			from = masked_user_access_begin(from);
		else if (!user_read_access_begin(from, sizeof(*from)))
			return -EFAULT;

In addition I would expect a masked_user_read_access_begin() and a 
masked_write_access_begin(). It looks odd (and would be wrong on 
powerpc) to not be able to differentiate between read and write in the 
begin yet using user_read_access_end() at the end, ref get_sigset_argpack()

Christophe

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-11 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-07 11:37 Christophe Leroy
2025-06-07 13:57 ` kernel test robot
2025-06-10 19:53 ` David Laight
2025-06-11 13:48   ` Christophe Leroy [this message]
2025-06-11 21:37     ` David Laight

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