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From: Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/10] iommu: Make iommu_queue_iopf() more generic
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 12:27:51 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0547df76-6ef2-9a1c-bcb1-f9235bb0007d@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230830124919.GA2855675@myrica>

Hi Jean,

On 8/30/2023 6:19 PM, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 04:32:47PM +0530, Vasant Hegde wrote:
>> Tian, Baolu,
>>
>> On 8/30/2023 1:13 PM, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>>>> From: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2023 4:01 PM
>>>>
>>>> On 8/25/23 4:17 PM, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>>>>>> +
>>>>>>   /**
>>>>>>    * iopf_queue_flush_dev - Ensure that all queued faults have been
>>>>>> processed
>>>>>>    * @dev: the endpoint whose faults need to be flushed.
>>>>> Presumably we also need a flush callback per domain given now
>>>>> the use of workqueue is optional then flush_workqueue() might
>>>>> not be sufficient.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The iopf_queue_flush_dev() function flushes all pending faults from the
>>>> IOMMU queue for a specific device. It has no means to flush fault queues
>>>> out of iommu core.
>>>>
>>>> The iopf_queue_flush_dev() function is typically called when a domain is
>>>> detaching from a PASID. Hence it's necessary to flush the pending faults
>>>> from top to bottom. For example, iommufd should flush pending faults in
>>>> its fault queues after detaching the domain from the pasid.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is there an ordering problem? The last step of intel_svm_drain_prq()
>>> in the detaching path issues a set of descriptors to drain page requests
>>> and responses in hardware. It cannot complete if not all software queues
>>> are drained and it's counter-intuitive to drain a software queue after 
>>> the hardware draining has already been completed.
>>>
>>> btw just flushing requests is probably insufficient in iommufd case since
>>> the responses are received asynchronously. It requires an interface to
>>> drain both requests and responses (presumably with timeouts in case
>>> of a malicious guest which never responds) in the detach path.
>>>
>>> it's not a problem for sva as responses are synchrounsly delivered after
>>> handling mm fault. So fine to not touch it in this series but certainly
>>> this area needs more work when moving to support iommufd. 😊
>>>
>>> btw why is iopf_queue_flush_dev() called only in intel-iommu driver?
>>> Isn't it a common requirement for all sva-capable drivers?
> 
> It's not needed by the SMMUv3 driver because it doesn't implement PRI yet,
> only the Arm-specific stall fault model where DMA transactions are held in
> the SMMU while waiting for the OS to handle IOPFs. Since a device driver
> must complete all DMA transactions before calling unbind(), with the stall
> model there are no pending IOPFs to flush on unbind(). PRI support with
> Stop Markers would add a call to iopf_queue_flush_dev() after flushing the
> SMMU PRI queue [2].
> 

Thanks for the explanation.

> Moving the flush to the core shouldn't be a problem, as long as the driver
> gets a chance to flush the hardware queue first.

I am fine with keeping it as is. I can call iopf_queue_flush_dev() from AMD driver.

-Vasant


> 
> Thanks,
> Jean
> 
> [2] https://jpbrucker.net/git/linux/commit/?h=sva/2020-12-14&id=bba76fb4ec631bec96f98f14a6cd13b2df81e5ce
> 
>>
>> I had same question when we did SVA implementation for AMD IOMMU [1]. Currently
>> we call queue_flush from remove_dev_pasid() path. Since PASID can be enabled
>> without ATS/PRI, I thought its individual drivers responsibility.
>> But looking this series, does it make sense to handle queue_flush in core layer?
>>
>> [1]
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20230823140415.729050-1-vasant.hegde@amd.com/T/#t
>>
>> -Vasant
>>
>>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-31  6:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-25  2:30 [PATCH v4 00/10] iommu: Prepare to deliver page faults to user space Lu Baolu
2023-08-25  2:30 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] iommu: Move iommu fault data to linux/iommu.h Lu Baolu
2023-08-25  7:52   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-25  2:30 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Remove unrecoverable faults reporting Lu Baolu
2023-08-25  7:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-25  2:30 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] iommu: Remove unrecoverable fault data Lu Baolu
2023-08-25  7:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-25  2:30 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] iommu: Cleanup iopf data structure definitions Lu Baolu
2023-08-25  7:57   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-25  2:30 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] iommu: Merge iopf_device_param into iommu_fault_param Lu Baolu
2023-08-25  8:00   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-25  2:30 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] iommu: Remove iommu_[un]register_device_fault_handler() Lu Baolu
2023-08-25  2:30 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] iommu: Merge iommu_fault_event and iopf_fault Lu Baolu
2023-08-25  8:03   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-26  7:02     ` Baolu Lu
2023-08-30  7:33       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-25  2:30 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] iommu: Prepare for separating SVA and IOPF Lu Baolu
2023-08-25  8:05   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-25  2:30 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] iommu: Make iommu_queue_iopf() more generic Lu Baolu
2023-08-25  8:17   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-26  7:32     ` Baolu Lu
2023-08-30  7:34       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-26  8:01     ` Baolu Lu
2023-08-30  7:43       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-30 11:02         ` Vasant Hegde
2023-08-30 12:49           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2023-08-31  6:57             ` Vasant Hegde [this message]
2023-08-31  9:27         ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-01  2:49           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-09-05  5:19             ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-11  6:35               ` Tian, Kevin
2023-09-11 12:26                 ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-13  2:25                   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-09-13  2:44                     ` Baolu Lu
     [not found]       ` <BN9PR11MB527624F1CC4A545FBAE3C9C98CE6A@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2023-08-30  8:50         ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-31  9:42           ` Baolu Lu
2023-08-26  8:04     ` Baolu Lu
2023-08-30  7:55       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-08-31 11:24         ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-01  2:50           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-09-05  5:24             ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-11  6:57               ` Tian, Kevin
2023-09-11 12:46                 ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-13  2:34                   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-09-13  4:23                     ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-13  6:18                     ` Baolu Lu
2023-08-26  8:08     ` Baolu Lu
2023-08-25  2:30 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] iommu: Separate SVA and IOPF Lu Baolu

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