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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "debug@rivosinc.com" <debug@rivosinc.com>,
	"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"broonie@kernel.org" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
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	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Mehta, Sohil" <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
	"oleg@redhat.com" <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] x86/fpu: don't abuse x86_task_fpu(PF_USER_WORKER) in .regset_get() paths
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 16:32:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <064735211c874bf79bfdf6d22a33b5ae5b76386c.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250822153603.GA27103@redhat.com>

On Fri, 2025-08-22 at 17:36 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> PF_USER_WORKER threads don't really differ from PF_KTHREAD threads
> at least in that they never return to usermode and never use their
> FPU state.
> 
> However, ptrace or coredump paths can access their FPU state and this
> is the only reason why x86_task_fpu(PF_USER_WORKER) needs to work and
> and discriminate PF_USER_WORKER from PF_KTHREAD. Unlike all other x86
> FPU code paths which do not distinguish them.
> 
> OTOH, arch/x86/kernel/fpu/regset.c doesn't really need "struct fpu *",
> the .regset_get() functions actually need a "struct fpstate *". If the
> target task is PF_USER_WORKER, they can safely use &init_fpstate. So
> this series adds the new simple helper

PKRU affects kernel accesses to userspace. io threads and vhost access
userspace. So why don't we want PKRU state to be inherited for user workers? I
guess it is not today, but to me, conceptually we maybe don't want a special
case for them? So rather than add more special handling, could we actually just
remove special handling to make it consistent?

But again, what exactly is the problem here? Is there a crash or something for
user workers?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-22 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22 15:36 Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] x86/fpu: don't use x86_task_fpu() in copy_xstate_to_uabi_buf() Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] x86/fpu: regset: introduce get_fpstate() helper Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] x86/fpu: fold sync_fpstate() into get_fpstate() Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 15:37 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] x86/shstk: don't create the shadow stack for PF_USER_WORKERs Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 15:37 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] x86/fpu: change get_fpstate() to return &init_fpstate if PF_USER_WORKER Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 16:32 ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2025-08-22 19:21   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] x86/fpu: don't abuse x86_task_fpu(PF_USER_WORKER) in .regset_get() paths Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 20:01     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-25 13:47       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-27 14:12         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-27 14:51           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-28 21:48             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29 15:06               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-09-02 20:37                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-03  9:54                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-09-03 15:46                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-04 13:44                       ` Oleg Nesterov

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