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From: Julien Thierry <jthierry@redhat.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Matt Helsley <mhelsley@vmware.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/36] objtool: Make recordmcount a subcommand
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 15:17:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <064f41bd-0dfe-e875-df7c-214184c29fa7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200414093506.7b91bbbb@gandalf.local.home>



On 4/14/20 2:35 PM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:24:15 +0100
> Julien Thierry <jthierry@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> If all you need from objtool it the elf parsing code, wouldn't it make
>> more sense to move that out of objtool, as a utility library that both
>> objtool and recordmcount could use (and perhaps other tools in the future?)
>>
>> In patch 3 you seem to mention that other tools already have their own
>> code to parse elf. So instead of converting everything as an objtool
>> subcommand, maybe just have the library with the required functionality.
>>
>> Any opinions on the above? What do people prefer?
> 
> I think we discussed this before (and originally that was the plan), but I
> believe one of the goals for bringing recordmcount into objtool is to speed
> up the processing. Instead of having to read the elf sections for each use
> case, we do it once, and then execute all the necessary operations for that
> build.
> 
> If we just have a elf parsing library, then each object file is going to
> have that read redundantly for each operation that is done on it.
> 
> I was hoping to have objtool handle all the operations needed that required
> reading elf headers.
> 

That makes sense, however, having each operation as an objtool 
subcommand doesn't solve that issue, right? Each invocation of objtool 
will re-read the elf object.

I guess having all the relevant code in objtool as subcommand would be a 
first step towards that goal.

> But if that's not what objtool maintainers want, then we can certainly go
> back to looking at pulling out the elf headers, and have each tool be a
> standalone again.
> 

I'm no maintainer nor know their feeling about this and I haven't been 
part of the initial discussion. My main concern was about the approach 
of moving existing subcommand code to arch specific folders.

Thanks for the explanations.

Cheers,

-- 
Julien Thierry


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-14 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-10 19:35 Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/36] objtool: Exit successfully when requesting help Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/36] objtool: Move struct objtool_file into arch-independent header Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/36] objtool: Enable compilation of objtool for all architectures Matt Helsley
2020-04-14  7:39   ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-14 13:41     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-14 14:01       ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-14 20:56     ` Matt Helsley
2020-04-15  7:05       ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/36] objtool: Report missing support for subcommands Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/36] objtool: Add support for relocations without addends Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/36] objtool: Prepare to merge recordmcount Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/36] objtool: Make recordmcount into mcount subcmd Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/36] objtool: recordmcount: Start using objtool's elf wrapper Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/36] objtool: recordmcount: Search for __mcount_loc before walking the sections Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/36] objtool: recordmcount: Convert do_func() relhdrs Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/36] objtool: mcount: Remove unused fname parameter Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/36] objtool: mcount: Use libelf for section header names Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/36] objtool: mcount: Walk objtool Elf structs in find_secsym_ndx Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 14/36] objtool: mcount: Use symbol structs to find mcount relocations Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 15/36] objtool: mcount: Walk relocation lists Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 16/36] objtool: mcount: Move get_mcountsym Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 17/36] objtool: mcount: Replace MIPS offset types Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 18/36] objtool: mcount: Move is_fake_mcount() Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 19/36] objtool: mcount: Stop using ehdr in find_section_sym_index Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 20/36] objtool: mcount: Move find_section_sym_index() Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 21/36] objtool: mcount: Restrict using ehdr in append_func() Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 22/36] objtool: mcount: Use objtool ELF to write Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 23/36] objtool: mcount: Move nop_mcount() Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 24/36] objtool: mcount: Move helpers out of ELF wrapper Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 25/36] objtool: mcount: Move relocation entry size detection Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 26/36] objtool: mcount: Only keep ELF file size Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 27/36] objtool: mcount: Use ELF header from objtool Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 28/36] objtool: mcount: Remove unused file mapping Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 29/36] objtool: mcount: Reduce usage of _size wrapper Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 30/36] objtool: mcount: Move mcount_adjust out of wrapper Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 31/36] objtool: mcount: Pre-allocate new ELF sections Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 32/36] objtool: mcount: Generic location and relocation table types Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 33/36] objtool: mcount: Move sift_rel_mcount out of wrapper file Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 34/36] objtool: mcount: Remove wrapper for ELF relocation type Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 35/36] objtool: mcount: Remove wrapper double-include trick Matt Helsley
2020-04-10 19:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 36/36] objtool: mcount: Remove wordsized endian wrappers Matt Helsley
2020-04-14  7:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/36] objtool: Make recordmcount a subcommand Julien Thierry
2020-04-14 13:35   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-14 14:17     ` Julien Thierry [this message]
2020-04-14 15:54       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-14 20:09         ` Matt Helsley
2020-04-14 20:47           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-14 21:05             ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-14 21:17               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-14 21:47                 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-14 22:25                   ` Peter Zijlstra

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