From: Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Kaitao Cheng <chengkaitao@kylinos.cn>,
Dave Chinner <dgc@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/zswap: fix double decrement of the LRU node count on writeback
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2026 17:12:04 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <07a6ef5a-3f28-47b8-a063-912f70977035@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO9r8zPuDtn1S0g8rDnXNfSdZ6uuH1geXALDN5-X_SZpM_W+wg@mail.gmail.com>
在 2026/10/29 23:10, Yosry Ahmed 写道:
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 9:23 PM Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> 在 2026/10/29 05:10, Johannes Weiner 写道:
>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 12:22:43PM -0700, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 4:36 AM Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Kaitao Cheng <chengkaitao@kylinos.cn>
>>>>>
>>>>> Successful writeback calls zswap_entry_free(), which removes the entry
>>>>> from the LRU and decrements both the sublist and node item counts.
>>>>> shrink_memcg_cb() then returns LRU_REMOVED_RETRY, causing the LRU walker
>>>>> to decrement the node count again.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if we have a valid use case for adding LRU_REMOVED_COUNTED or
>>>> LRU_DELETED instead to simply avoid the decrement.
>>>
>>> It bugs me that it's the walker, not the callback, that adjusts the
>>> count. That composes poorly with the normal list manipulation API.
>>>
>>> How about pushing the accounting into the isolation callback, which
>>> can then simply use __list_lru_del()?
>>>
>>> The tradeoff is that more things need to be passed into the isolation
>>> callback, but that seems reasonable. It does make the change noisy,
>>> however, and we might want something like Kaitao's change as a
>>> backportable fix first regardless.
>>
>> I tried three approaches.
>>
>> The first was "pushing the accounting into the isolation callback", as
>> Johannes Weiner suggested. However, as Johannes's example below also shows,
>> this would require extensive changes across multiple subsystems. I doubted
>> that such a broad change would be accepted, so I dropped this approach.
>>
>> The second was to add a new flag to enum lru_status, as Yosry Ahmed suggested,
>> to handle cases like zswap where the callback has already decremented the
>> count. However, the incorrect lru->node[nid].nr_items value in zswap is only
>> an accounting issue: I could not find any code that reads this counter for
>> zswap. Changing a generic interface to fix an accounting error with no
>> apparent functional impact did not seem worthwhile.
>>
>> The third approach is the one implemented in this patch. It keeps the changes
>> within zswap and fixes the accounting issue, so I think it is appropriate.
>
> I honestly think it's a problem with the list_lru API, as Johannes
> said, walkers compose poorly with the API. So I prefer we either take
> Johannes's suggestion or add LRU_DELETED, unless there's strong
> objection to both ideas.
In v2 (https://lore.kernel.org/all/aupITfr9pBKPrU20@dread/), Dave Chinner
explicitly objected to changing the common interface, so we need to revisit
the fix. Otherwise, progress on resolving this issue will remain blocked.
> FWIW, we don't need a minimal fix for backports, I don't think this
> needs to be backported at all. As Kaitao said, I don't think the wrong
> list_lru count is being used anywhere for zswap.
--
Thanks
Kaitao Cheng
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-06 9:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-28 11:36 Kaitao Cheng
2026-10-28 18:47 ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-29 4:15 ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-10-29 17:11 ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-28 19:22 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-10-28 21:10 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-10-28 21:17 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-10-29 4:23 ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-10-29 15:10 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-11-02 16:58 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-11-03 1:28 ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-11-06 9:12 ` Kaitao Cheng [this message]
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