From: Buday Csaba <Buday.Csaba@prolan.hu>
To: "Leonardo Mörlein" <leo.moerlein@proton.me>,
"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Hauke Mehrtens <hauke@hauke-m.de>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: phy: mdio_device: leave PHY reset deasserted on unregister
Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 08:47:55 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <07bd7806-4bc3-4c61-8cc3-4d534010bf65@prolan.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <hRNIpXMBtfUH-OrabbMVvOWAZ5J4O1XNTvx0lMYIDdSLqFL9hhZKdb3CzPo7VgUrwKi6MD3qlj2li6eHybgzFBB_Wfqu5Lc4dABXt9mpL2s=@proton.me>
>> I'm wondering if we are fixing the wrong thing here.
>
> In general, I see two options to fix this. Either we fix the
> tear down or we fix the setup of the device.
I have been fighting a different problem with a similar cause.
- you should not rely on the bootloader setting anything up. The kernel
should be able to perform the initialization without any assumptions
about bootloader OR previous state behavior.
- from this follows, that the correct way to handle resets is always
during the initialization, not leaving it in a known state.
- mdio_unregister_device() should reverse mdiobus_register_device().
The reset was in an unknown state before mdiobus_register_device(),
so both can be argued:
a) you can leave it in either state, since it was not determined
before
b) you should leave it asserted, to save power
If I understand correctly, your resets are asserted by default (when the
GPIOs are inputs).
I have sent patches that would have taken control of resets before
the device is established, but there were problems with that.
It would have served a different purpose (PHY ID autodetection), but I
think if implemented correctly, it would also help your situation.
Russell King replied with a constructive letter, but I lacked the time
since to do anything on that thread.
See:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/5701a9faafd1769b650b79c2d0c72cc10b5bdbc8.1764337894.git.buday.csaba@prolan.hu/#t
Please also check out this letter by Andrew about the PHY ID autodetection:
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/23c1bed1-3f95-48b9-8ff0-71696bdcd62b@lunn.ch/
Perhaps specifying the PHY ID would help? It did help me.
Regards,
Csaba
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-21 8:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-20 15:13 leo.moerlein
2026-05-20 15:55 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-05-20 22:53 ` Leonardo Mörlein
2026-05-20 23:39 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-06 12:03 ` Leonardo Mörlein
2026-05-21 8:47 ` Buday Csaba [this message]
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