From: John Donnelly <john.p.donnelly@oracle.com>
To: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
Cc: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>, Chen Zhou <chenzhou10@huawei.com>,
kbuild test robot <lkp@intel.com>,
horms@verge.net.au, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, bhsharma@redhat.com,
xiexiuqi@huawei.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
tglx@linutronix.de, will@kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] x86: kdump: move reserve_crashkernel_low() into crash_core.c
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 09:47:55 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <08C19FFB-C6FC-4BB7-A1C2-67CE6B99D2AB@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <77c971a4-608f-ee35-40cb-77186a2ddbd1@arm.com>
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 9:17 AM, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> On 28/12/2019 09:32, Dave Young wrote:
>> On 12/27/19 at 07:04pm, Chen Zhou wrote:
>>> On 2019/12/27 13:54, Dave Young wrote:
>>>> On 12/23/19 at 11:23pm, Chen Zhou wrote:
>>>>> In preparation for supporting reserve_crashkernel_low in arm64 as
>>>>> x86_64 does, move reserve_crashkernel_low() into kernel/crash_core.c.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note, in arm64, we reserve low memory if and only if crashkernel=X,low
>>>>> is specified. Different with x86_64, don't set low memory automatically.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any reason for the difference? I'd expect we have same
>>>> logic if possible and remove some of the ifdefs.
>>>
>>> In x86_64, if we reserve crashkernel above 4G, then we call reserve_crashkernel_low()
>>> to reserve low memory.
>>>
>>> In arm64, to simplify, we call reserve_crashkernel_low() at the beginning of reserve_crashkernel()
>>> and then relax the arm64_dma32_phys_limit if reserve_crashkernel_low() allocated something.
>>> In this case, if reserve crashkernel below 4G there will be 256M low memory set automatically
>>> and this needs extra considerations.
>
>> Sorry that I did not read the old thread details and thought that is
>> arch dependent. But rethink about that, it would be better that we can
>> have same semantic about crashkernel parameters across arches. If we
>> make them different then it causes confusion, especially for
>> distributions.
>
> Surely distros also want one crashkernel* string they can use on all platforms without
> having to detect the kernel version, platform or changeable memory layout...
>
>
>> OTOH, I thought if we reserve high memory then the low memory should be
>> needed. There might be some exceptions, but I do not know the exact
>> one,
>
>> can we make the behavior same, and special case those systems which
>> do not need low memory reservation.
>
> Its tricky to work out which systems are the 'normal' ones.
>
> We don't have a fixed memory layout for arm64. Some systems have no memory below 4G.
> Others have no memory above 4G.
>
> Chen Zhou's machine has some memory below 4G, but its too precious to reserve a large
> chunk for kdump. Without any memory below 4G some of the drivers won't work.
>
> I don't see what distros can set as their default for all platforms if high/low are
> mutually exclusive with the 'crashkernel=' in use today. How did x86 navigate this, ... or
> was it so long ago?
>
> No one else has reported a problem with the existing placement logic, hence treating this
> 'low' thing as the 'in addition' special case.
Hi,
I am seeing similar Arm crash dump issues on 5.4 kernels where we need rather large amount of crashkernel memory reserved that is not available below 4GB ( The maximum reserved size appears to be around 768M ) . When I pick memory range higher than 4GB , I see adapters that fail to initialize :
There is no low-memory <4G memory for DMA ;
[ 11.506792] kworker/0:14: page allocation failure: order:0,
mode:0x104(GFP_DMA32|__GFP_ZERO), nodemask=(null),cpuset=/,mems_allowed=0
[ 11.518793] CPU: 0 PID: 150 Comm: kworker/0:14 Not tainted
5.4.0-1948.3.el8uek.aarch64 #1
[ 11.526955] Hardware name: To be filled by O.E.M. Saber/Saber, BIOS
0ACKL025 01/18/2019
[ 11.534948] Workqueue: events work_for_cpu_fn
[ 11.539291] Call trace:
[ 11.541727] dump_backtrace+0x0/0x18c
[ 11.545376] show_stack+0x24/0x30
[ 11.548679] dump_stack+0xbc/0xe0
[ 11.551982] warn_alloc+0xf0/0x15c
[ 11.555370] __alloc_pages_slowpath+0xb4c/0xb84
[ 11.559887] __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x2d0/0x330
[ 11.564405] alloc_pages_current+0x8c/0xf8
[ 11.568496] ttm_bo_device_init+0x188/0x220 [ttm]
[ 11.573187] drm_vram_mm_init+0x58/0x80 [drm_vram_helper]
[ 11.578572] drm_vram_helper_alloc_mm+0x64/0xb0 [drm_vram_helper]
[ 11.584655] ast_mm_init+0x38/0x80 [ast]
[ 11.588566] ast_driver_load+0x474/0xa70 [ast]
[ 11.593029] drm_dev_register+0x144/0x1c8 [drm]
[ 11.597573] drm_get_pci_dev+0xa4/0x168 [drm]
[ 11.601919] ast_pci_probe+0x8c/0x9c [ast]
[ 11.606004] local_pci_probe+0x44/0x98
[ 11.609739] work_for_cpu_fn+0x20/0x30
[ 11.613474] process_one_work+0x1c4/0x41c
[ 11.617470] worker_thread+0x150/0x4b0
[ 11.621206] kthread+0x110/0x114
[ 11.624422] ret_from_fork+0x10/0x18
This failure is related to a graphics adapter.
The more complex kdump configurations that use networking stack to NFS mount a filesystem to dump to , or use ssh to copy to another machine, require more crashkernel memory reservations than perhaps the “default*” settings of a minimal kdump that creates a minimal vmcore to local storage in /var/crash. If crashkernel is too small I get Out of Memory issues and the entire vmcore process fails.
( *default kdump setting I assume are a minimal vmcore to /var/crash using primary boot device where /root is located )
>
>
>>> previous discusses:
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lkml.org_lkml_2019_6_5_670&d=DwICAg&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=t2fPg9D87F7D8jm0_3CG9yoiIKdRg4qc_thBw4bzMhc&m=jOAu1DTDpohsWszalfTCYx46eGF19TSWVLchN5yBPgk&s=gS9BLOkmj78lP5L7SP6_VLHwvP249uWKaE2R7N7sxgM&e=
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lkml.org_lkml_2019_6_13_229&d=DwICAg&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=t2fPg9D87F7D8jm0_3CG9yoiIKdRg4qc_thBw4bzMhc&m=jOAu1DTDpohsWszalfTCYx46eGF19TSWVLchN5yBPgk&s=U1Nis29n3A7XSBzED53fiE4MDAv5NlxYp1UorvvBOOw&e=
>>
>> Another concern from James:
>> "
>> With both crashk_low_res and crashk_res, we end up with two entries in /proc/iomem called
>> "Crash kernel". Because its sorted by address, and kexec-tools stops searching when it
>> find "Crash kernel", you are always going to get the kernel placed in the lower portion.
>> "
>>
>> The kexec-tools code is iterating all "Crash kernel" ranges and add them
>> in an array. In X86 code, it uses the higher range to locate memory.
>
> Then my hurried reading of what the user-space code does was wrong!
>
> If kexec-tools places the kernel in the low region, there may not be enough memory left
> for whatever purpose it was reserved for. This was the motivation for giving it a
> different name.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-23 15:23 [PATCH v7 0/4] support reserving crashkernel above 4G on arm64 kdump Chen Zhou
2019-12-23 15:23 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] x86: kdump: move reserve_crashkernel_low() into crash_core.c Chen Zhou
2019-12-27 5:54 ` Dave Young
2019-12-27 11:04 ` Chen Zhou
2019-12-28 9:32 ` Dave Young
2019-12-31 1:39 ` Chen Zhou
2020-04-03 7:13 ` Chen Zhou
2020-01-16 15:17 ` James Morse
2020-01-16 15:47 ` John Donnelly [this message]
2020-02-24 15:25 ` John Donnelly
2020-03-02 1:29 ` Chen Zhou
2020-01-17 3:58 ` Dave Young
2020-04-03 7:29 ` Chen Zhou
2019-12-23 15:23 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] arm64: kdump: reserve crashkenel above 4G for crash dump kernel Chen Zhou
2020-03-05 10:13 ` Prabhakar Kushwaha
2020-03-07 11:06 ` Chen Zhou
2020-03-07 18:43 ` John Donnelly
2020-03-09 4:59 ` Prabhakar Kushwaha
2020-03-09 4:48 ` Prabhakar Kushwaha
2020-03-09 15:51 ` Prabhakar Kushwaha
2020-03-10 1:30 ` chenzhou
2020-03-10 17:08 ` Prabhakar Kushwaha
2020-03-11 1:44 ` chenzhou
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[not found] ` <cf36f21a-6434-06ab-5b6c-e16cb526896d@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <d0bc6ba2-74c8-c083-097f-e1e5765ddca0@Oracle.com>
[not found] ` <E60A9E2C-AC74-49A6-9D3E-BDD4EF58287F@oracle.com>
2020-03-11 2:42 ` Prabhakar Kushwaha
2020-03-11 16:46 ` John Donnelly
2020-03-12 1:49 ` Prabhakar Kushwaha
2020-03-12 1:54 ` Prabhakar Kushwaha
2020-03-12 2:39 ` John Donnelly
2019-12-23 15:23 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] arm64: kdump: add memory for devices by DT property, low-memory-range Chen Zhou
2019-12-23 15:23 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] kdump: update Documentation about crashkernel on arm64 Chen Zhou
[not found] ` <52102118-9b61-5978-3213-062e9c758dcf@Oracle.com>
2020-02-24 15:18 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] support reserving crashkernel above 4G on arm64 kdump John Donnelly
2020-03-26 3:09 ` Chen Zhou
2020-05-19 10:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-05-19 20:21 ` John Donnelly
2020-05-20 8:32 ` Bhupesh Sharma
2020-05-20 3:30 ` chenzhou
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