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From: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@virtuozzo.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Konstantin Khorenko <khorenko@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: KVM: x86/vPMU/AMD: Can we detect PMU is off for a VM?
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 00:46:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <09116ed9-3409-4fbf-9c4f-7a94d8f620aa@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eSg=DZrFcq1ERGMeoEngFLRFtmnQN6t-noFT8T596NAYA@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/9/23 23:52, Jim Mattson wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM Konstantin Khorenko
> <khorenko@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> as a followup for my patch: i have noticed that
>> currently Intel kernel code provides an ability to detect if PMU is totally disabled for a VM
>> (pmu->version == 0 in this case), but for AMD code pmu->version is never 0,
>> no matter if PMU is enabled or disabled for a VM (i mean <pmu state='off'/> in the VM config which
>> results in "-cpu pmu=off" qemu option).
>>
>> So the question is - is it possible to enhance the code for AMD to also honor PMU VM setting or it is
>> impossible by design?
> The AMD architectural specification prior to AMD PMU v2 does not allow
> one to describe a CPU (via CPUID or MSRs) that has fewer than 4
> general purpose PMU counters. While AMD PMU v2 does allow one to
> describe such a CPU, legacy software that knows nothing of AMD PMU v2
> can expect four counters regardless.
>
> Having said that, KVM does provide a per-VM capability for disabling
> the virtual PMU: KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY(KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE). See
> section 8.35 in Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst.
But this means in particular that QEMU should immediately
use this KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE if this capability is supported and 
PMU=off. I am not seeing this code thus I believe that we have missed 
this. I think that this change worth adding. We will measure the impact 
:-) Den

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-09 23:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-09 18:06 [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86/vPMU: Speed up vmexit for AMD Zen 4 CPUs Konstantin Khorenko
2023-11-09 18:06 ` [PATCH 1/1] KVM: x86/vPMU: Check PMU is enabled for vCPU before searching for PMC Konstantin Khorenko
2023-11-09 20:09   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-09 20:13   ` Jim Mattson
2023-11-09 23:05     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-09 18:18 ` KVM: x86/vPMU/AMD: Can we detect PMU is off for a VM? Konstantin Khorenko
2023-11-09 22:52   ` Jim Mattson
2023-11-09 23:46     ` Denis V. Lunev [this message]
2023-11-10  0:01       ` Dongli Zhang
2023-11-13  9:31         ` Denis V. Lunev
2023-11-13 14:14           ` Dongli Zhang
2023-11-13 14:42             ` Denis V. Lunev
2023-11-13 16:17               ` Dongli Zhang
2023-11-13 16:33                 ` Denis V. Lunev
2023-11-10  0:02       ` Jim Mattson
2023-11-09 22:44 ` [PATCH 0/1] KVM: x86/vPMU: Speed up vmexit for AMD Zen 4 CPUs Jim Mattson
2023-11-09 23:42   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-10  0:17     ` Jim Mattson
2023-11-10  0:52       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-10  1:14         ` Sean Christopherson

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