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From: Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@oracle.com>
To: rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	christian.loehle@arm.com, frederic@kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	regressions@lists.linux.dev
Subject: [REGRESSION] sched/idle: Sysbench threads regression after f4c31b07b136
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2026 12:25:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <096b42fa-107f-450d-b3b1-03bcad3f1e04@oracle.com> (raw)

Hi Rafael,

We are seeing a reproducible MySQL Sysbench threads regression.  A 
bisect indicated the following commit as the first bad commit:
f4c31b07b136 ("sched: idle: Consolidate the handling of two special cases")

The regression was found in Oracle kernel performance testing on OCI VM 
shapes:

VM Details:
* VM.Standard2.1:
       x86 OCI VM shape, 1 OCPU / 2 hardware threads, about 14.5 GB RAM

  * VM.Standard.A1.Flex.2:
       Arm/Ampere A1 flexible VM shape, 2 vCPU threads, about 10.9 GB RAM


The ResultsDB runs show the regression in the Sysbench threads metric:

   - VM.Standard2.1:       333 -> 236  (-29.1%)
   - VM.Standard.A1.Flex.2: 1286 -> 1152 (-10.4%)

A test kernel was built with f4c31b07b136 reverted and the performance 
regression was recovered.

 From the code, it is possible the regression is due to the new 
previous-wakeup heuristic in the special idle cases.  Before the commit:

   - no cpuidle driver:
       tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick()
       default_idle_call()

   - one idle state:
       tick_nohz_idle_retain_tick()
       cpuidle state 0

After the commit, both paths use:

   idle_call_stop_or_retain_tick(got_tick)

Here, got_tick is true if the CPU was woken from the previous idle-loop 
iteration by the scheduler tick, and false otherwise. On this 
workload/platform combination, using that previous wakeup source to 
decide whether to stop or retain the tick appears to change NOHZ 
behavior enough to regress this wakeup-heavy threaded workload.


Do you have any thoughts on whether this is an expected tradeoff of the 
new heuristic, or whether the special cases need a narrower condition?  
For our stable kernels, the immediate candidate fix is to revert the 
backport, but before doing that I wanted to ask whether upstream would 
prefer a targeted adjustment.

I can collect additional data if useful, for example cpuidle 
driver/state information, timer interrupt counts, idle residency, perf 
stat, or scheduler trace data from the affected OCI shapes.

#regzbot introduced: f4c31b07b136839e0fb3026f8a5b6543e3b14d2f


Thanks,

Joe


             reply	other threads:[~2026-07-02 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-02 16:25 Joseph Salisbury [this message]
2026-07-02 18:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-07-06 14:29   ` Christian Loehle
2026-07-08 15:25     ` Joseph Salisbury
2026-07-24 17:20     ` Joseph Salisbury
2026-07-28  8:30       ` Christian Loehle
2026-07-28 16:37         ` [PATCH] sched/idle: Stop the tick when no cpuidle driver is available Christian Loehle
2026-11-05 23:59           ` Florian Fainelli
2026-07-29  2:36         ` [REGRESSION] sched/idle: Sysbench threads regression after f4c31b07b136 Zhan Xusheng
2026-07-29 18:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-07-29 18:25         ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-07-30  9:27           ` Christian Loehle

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