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From: Harun Scheutzow <harun04@scheutzow.de>
To: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen)
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: vfat file system extreme fragmentation on multiprocessor
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:11:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ML31I-1KdsXT0vcs-0006v2@mrelayeu.kundenserver.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080911191049.GB31271@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>

At 21:10 11.09.2008, Lennart Sorensen wrote:

Why do you start a flame war against fat fs without the proper knowledge? This is of no help.

ext2 is no magic bullet. As any other file system which does not rearrange clusters on the fly (this is defragmentation), it can only prevent fragmentation by wasting space, that means it seems not to fragment at 25 % full, but does at 90 %, just depending on size of files created. Initially wasting space and on-the-fly defragmentation can be done on FAT as well, if the driver likes to do.

All this NOT the problem here. It is NOT what I'm asking for.


>Now what would happen if you used ftruncate to extend the file you open
>to a large size, and then started writing it, and then set the size
>correctly at the end?

Because ftruncate has to allocate the clusters the same way fwrite does, it would probably give the same results.


Anyway, I want to keep things simple. I do not know the final file size in advance, may be 550 MByte, often 200, but can be 5. It is perfectly ok to get 4 fragments per 200 MByte. All I suggest is that a file system which is told to write 50 MByte a piece, does so.

I do not want to synchronize the two applications, preventing them from writing at the same time. But currently this seems to be the only option.

Harun Scheutzow


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-11 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-11 18:01 Harun Scheutzow
2008-09-11 19:10 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-09-11 19:36   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-11 21:09     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-09-11 21:43       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-11 20:11   ` Harun Scheutzow [this message]
2008-09-11 21:20     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-09-11 23:03       ` Harun Scheutzow
2008-09-11 23:50 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found] <baZfg-1yC-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <baZS2-2rX-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-09-12 13:19   ` Bodo Eggert
2008-09-12 22:11     ` Harun Scheutzow

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