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From: Claudiu Beznea <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: vkoul@kernel.org, kishon@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org,
	krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org, p.zabel@pengutronix.de,
	magnus.damm@gmail.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com, christophe.jaillet@wanadoo.fr,
	linux-phy@lists.infradead.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	Claudiu Beznea <claudiu.beznea.uj@bp.renesas.com>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/15] dt-bindings: soc: renesas: renesas,rzg2l-sysc: Add #renesas,sysc-signal-cells
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:21:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0bb9f461-c7a2-4db0-9492-c04cc298504d@tuxon.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWjzR6vgbr_CfR7r-h1FqWxs1nY0hm274kxFmoHjCtRAA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Geert,

On 28.11.2024 17:46, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Claudiu,
> 
> CC Ulf
> 
> Thanks for your patch!
> 
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 10:21 AM Claudiu <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev> wrote:
>> From: Claudiu Beznea <claudiu.beznea.uj@bp.renesas.com>
>>
>> The RZ/G3S system controller (SYSC) has registers to control signals that
>> are routed to various IPs. These signals must be controlled during
>> configuration of the respective IPs. One such signal is the USB PWRRDY,
>> which connects the SYSC and the USB PHY. This signal must to be controlled
>> before and after the power to the USB PHY is turned off/on.
>>
>> Other similar signals include the following (according to the RZ/G3S
>> hardware manual):
>>
>> * PCIe:
>> - ALLOW_ENTER_L1 signal controlled through the SYS_PCIE_CFG register
>> - PCIE_RST_RSM_B signal controlled through the SYS_PCIE_RST_RSM_B
>>   register
>> - MODE_RXTERMINATION signal controlled through SYS_PCIE_PHY register
>>
>> * SPI:
>> - SEL_SPI_OCTA signal controlled through SYS_IPCONT_SEL_SPI_OCTA
>>   register
>>
>> * I2C/I3C:
>> - af_bypass I2C signals controlled through SYS_I2Cx_CFG registers
>>   (x=0..3)
>> - af_bypass I3C signal controlled through SYS_I3C_CFG register
>>
>> * Ethernet:
>> - FEC_GIGA_ENABLE Ethernet signals controlled through SYS_GETHx_CFG
>>   registers (x=0..1)
>>
>> Add #renesas,sysc-signal-cells DT property to allow different SYSC signals
>> consumers to manage these signals.
>>
>> The goal is to enable consumers to specify the required access data for
>> these signals (through device tree) and let their respective drivers
>> control these signals via the syscon regmap provided by the system
>> controller driver. For example, the USB PHY will describe this relation
>> using the following DT property:
>>
>> usb2_phy1: usb-phy@11e30200 {
>>         // ...
>>         renesas,sysc-signal = <&sysc 0xd70 0x1>;
>>         // ...
>> };
> 
> IIUIC, the consumer driver will  appear to control the SYSC bits
> directly, but due to the use of custom validating regmap accessors
> and reference counting in the SYSC driver, this is safe?

I'm not sure I fully understand the safety concern.

> The extra safety requires duplicating the register bits in both DT
> and the SYSC driver.

One other option I saw was to have common defines for registers that could
have been shared b/w driver and DTSes. But it looked better to me the way
it has been presented in this series.

> Both usb-phy nodes on RZG3S use the same renesas,sysc-signal, so the
> reference counting is indeed needed.  They are in different power
> domains, could that be an issue w.r.t. ordering?

In chapter "32.4.2.1 USB/PHY related pins", section "When either Port1 or
Port2 is unused" of the RZ/G3S HW manual it is mentioned "Since USB_VDD18 /
USB_VDD33 are common to 2 Port PHY, it is necessary to supply power even
when one of the
 ports is not in use".

(From the discussions w/ the internal HW team) The PWRRDY is an (software
controlled) indicator to the USB PHY that power supply is ready.

From that and [1] I get that both PHYs are powered by the same regulators
(USB_VDD18/USB_VDD33) and the USB PWRRDY signal need to be set before/after
the USB PHY power off/on. Because of this I consider the order doesn't matter.

[1] https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/0a1zYBFZXZVb.png

> 
> I am not a big fan of describing register bits in DT,

+1

> but for the other
> SYSC users you list above, syscon+regmap seems to be a valid solution.
> For USB and PCIe control, the situation is different. I more liked the
> approach with "reset IDs" you had in v1, as it abstracts the DT
> description from the register bits,

+1

> and the USB and PCIe reset bits use
> a different polarity (on RZ/G3S). If future SoC integration changes
> the polarity, you have to handle that in the consumer (USB or PCIe)
> driver, too.

That's true. The idea of this implementation was that the consumer would
know what they need to set for themselves on the SYSC side.

> Unfortunately such "reset IDs" are only suitable for
> use with the reset or pmdomain frameworks, which didn't survive the
> earlier discussions.
> 
> One other option would be to let SYSC expose regulators?

We can try, but we can hit the wall again, as the PWRRDY signal is not a
regulator either. From the internal HW discussion is an indicator (software
controlled) that the power to the USB PHY is ready.

> While that would work for USB and PCIe control, we would still need
> syscon+regmap for the other bits.

That is true.

> 
> So the more I think about it, the more I like your (clever) solution...
> 
>> Along with it, add the syscon to the compatible list as it will be
>> requested by the consumer drivers. The syscon was added to the rest of
>> system controller variants as these are similar with RZ/G3S and can
>> benefit from the implementation proposed in this series.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Claudiu Beznea <claudiu.beznea.uj@bp.renesas.com>
> 
> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
> 
>                         Geert
> 
> --
> Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
> 
> In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
> when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
>                                 -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-29  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-26  9:20 [PATCH v2 00/15] Add initial USB support for the Renesas RZ/G3S SoC Claudiu
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] dt-bindings: soc: renesas: renesas,rzg2l-sysc: Add #renesas,sysc-signal-cells Claudiu
2024-11-28 15:46   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-29  8:21     ` Claudiu Beznea [this message]
2024-11-29  8:38       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-12-02 10:11         ` Claudiu Beznea
2024-12-10 18:45   ` Rob Herring
2024-12-11 12:23     ` Claudiu Beznea
2024-12-11 12:46       ` Rob Herring
2024-12-11 13:29         ` Claudiu Beznea
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] soc: renesas: Add SYSC driver for Renesas RZ family Claudiu
2024-11-26  9:28   ` Biju Das
2024-11-26 13:42     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-26 13:44       ` Biju Das
2024-11-28 15:24   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-29  8:48     ` Claudiu Beznea
2024-11-29  8:54       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-29  9:12         ` Claudiu Beznea
2024-11-29 10:23         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] soc: renesas: rz-sysc: Enable SYSC driver for RZ/G3S Claudiu
2024-12-10 14:41   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] soc: renesas: rz-sysc: Add SoC detection support Claudiu
2024-11-26  9:30   ` Biju Das
2024-12-10 14:59   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] soc: renesas: rz-sysc: Move RZ/G3S SoC detection to the SYSC driver Claudiu
2024-12-10 15:00   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] dt-bindings: usb: renesas,usbhs: Document RZ/G3S SoC Claudiu
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] dt-bindings: phy: renesas,usb2-phy: Mark resets as required for RZ/G3S Claudiu
2024-11-26 17:53   ` Conor Dooley
2024-12-10 14:41   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] dt-bindings: phy: renesas,usb2-phy: Add renesas,sysc-signal Claudiu
2024-12-10 15:02   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] phy: renesas: rcar-gen3-usb2: Fix an error handling path in rcar_gen3_phy_usb2_probe() Claudiu
2024-12-10 15:05   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] phy: renesas: rcar-gen3-usb2: Add support for PWRRDY Claudiu
2024-11-28 15:07   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-29  9:03     ` Claudiu Beznea
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] dt-bindings: reset: renesas,rzg2l-usbphy-ctrl: Document RZ/G3S support Claudiu
2024-11-26 17:53   ` Conor Dooley
2024-12-10 15:26   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] arm64: dts: renesas: Add #renesas,sysc-signal-cells to system controller node Claudiu
2024-11-28 15:17   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-12-10 15:29     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] arm64: dts: renesas: r9a08g045: Enable the system controller Claudiu
2024-12-10 15:31   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] arm64: dts: renesas: r9a08g045: Add USB support Claudiu
2024-12-10 15:38   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-26  9:20 ` [PATCH v2 15/15] arm64: dts: renesas: rzg3s-smarc: Enable " Claudiu
2024-12-10 15:41   ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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