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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: "Harry (Hyeonggon) Yoo" <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
Cc: Gwan-gyeong Mun <gwan-gyeong.mun@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, osalvador@suse.de,
	byungchul@sk.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, luto@kernel.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	max.byungchul.park@sk.com, max.byungchul.park@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/1] x86/vmemmap: Add missing update of PML4 table / PML5 table entry
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 16:29:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0bed366e-a0e5-4d1a-b677-afad23235bcf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z6_d1MvorGFpxdU1@MacBook-Air-5.local>

On 2/14/25 16:20, Harry (Hyeonggon) Yoo wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 11:57:50AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On 2/14/25 11:51, Gwan-gyeong Mun wrote:
>>> when performing vmemmap populate, if the entry of the PML4 table/PML5 table
>>> pointing to the target virtual address has never been updated, a page fault
>>> occurs when the memset(start) called from the vmemmap_use_new_sub_pmd()
>>> execution flow.
>>
>> "Page fault" meaning oops? Or something that we manage to handle and
>> return from without oopsing?
> 
> It means oops, because the kernel accesses part of vmemmap that's not
> populated (yet) in current process's page table.

Your 0/1 cover letter got to me after this mail did. I see the oops
there clear as day now.

> This oops was observed after increasing the size of struct page (as a part of
> developing a debug feature), but the real cause is that page table entries are
> only installed in init_mm's page table and then sync'd later, but in the mean
> time the process that triggered hot-plug accesses new portion of vmemmap.
> 
> If the process does not directly use the page table of init_mm (like swapper)
> this oops can occur (e.g., I was able to trigger with `sudo modprobe hmm_test`
> after increasing the size of struct page).

Makes sense.  Thanks for the explanation.

>>> This fixes the problem of using the virtual address without updating the
>>> entry in the PML4 table or PML5 table. But this is a temporary solution to
>>> prevent page fault problems, and it requires improvement of the routine
>>> that updates the missing entry in the PML4 table or PML5 table.
>>
>> Can we please skip past the band-aid and go to the real fix?
> 
> Yes, of course it'd best to skip a temporary fix.
> The intention is to report/discuss the problem and a fix as a starting point.

Do you have a better fix in mind?


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-15  0:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-14 19:51 [RFC 0/1] " Gwan-gyeong Mun
2025-02-14 19:51 ` [RFC 1/1] " Gwan-gyeong Mun
2025-02-14 19:57   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-15  0:20     ` Harry (Hyeonggon) Yoo
2025-02-15  0:29       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2025-02-17 11:40         ` Gwan-gyeong Mun

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