Received: from mail.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]) by smtp.cwctv.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:49:10 +0000 Received: from work.bitmover.com (work.bitmover.com [10.3.3.1]) by mail.bitmover.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h02J9O432591; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:09:24 -0800 Received: (from lm@localhost) by work.bitmover.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h02InCv27857; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:49:12 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:49:12 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Richard Stallman Cc: efault@gmx.de, Hell.Surfers@cwctv.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Message-ID: <20030102184912.GA2461@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Richard Stallman , efault@gmx.de, Hell.Surfers@cwctv.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <5.1.1.6.2.20030101084621.00cdf9f8@pop.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Return-Path: lm@bitmover.com Whoohoo! Here we go. Someone please rattle his cage about the BK license and we can keep this going for months! This reminds me of soc.singles, a venerable hangout for weirdos of all kinds, yours truly included years and years ago. I once posted some inflammatory statement and disappeared to Japan for several months (installing a supercomputer at Tokyo Institute of Technology, look at the acronymn, gotta love it), and then came back. 3 months later. Read soc.singles. They were *still* arguing about it. Then and now, the thought that occurred was "get a life". On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 01:38:48PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > Yup. It's high time they realized that Linux exists today solely because a > lazy Finnish student conned a bunch of folks into doing his homework. > ] > > That's a colorful way of saying that Linux was developed by Linus > Torvalds. If by "Linux" you mean the kernel whose maintenance is > discussed on this list, that is true. > > You're surely aware that when the media, companies, and users say > "Linux", they usually do not mean the kernel. They usually have in > mind an entire operating system in which Linux is used. This entire > system wasn't developed by Linus Torvalds--it is basically GNU, which > was started in 1984. The system exists because idealistic programmers > had a vision of a different kind of society and had the determination > to make it happen. > > If you want to avoid predictably steering readers into confusion, each > time you say (in one way or another) that Linux was developed by Linus > Torvalds, you need to explain that Linux is one component of the > GNU+Linux system which is what users typically run. > > For further discussion, and for responses to all the usual > counterarguments, see http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html. > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm