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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
Cc: Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@oracle.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	SRINIVAS <srinivas.eeda@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Question about qspinlock nest
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 14:23:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0dc6a5c2-a80d-5ebf-a3ed-5aedacffdd6d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d06126a1-1db8-f937-2084-2c1234b6f56f@arm.com>

On 01/10/2019 01:25 PM, James Morse wrote:
> Hi Longman, Zhenzhong,
>
> On 10/01/2019 14:43, Waiman Long wrote:
>> On 01/10/2019 03:02 AM, Zhenzhong Duan wrote:
>>> There is a question confused me for days. Appreciate an answer.
>>>
>>> In below code, the comment says we never have more than 4 nested
>>> contexts.
>>>
>>> What happen if debug and mce exceptions nest with the four, or we
>>> ensure it never happen?
>>>
>>>
>>> /*
>>>  * Per-CPU queue node structures; we can never have more than 4 nested
>>>  * contexts: task, softirq, hardirq, nmi.
>>>  *
>>>  * Exactly fits one 64-byte cacheline on a 64-bit architecture.
>>>  *
>>>  * PV doubles the storage and uses the second cacheline for PV state.
>>>  */
>>> static DEFINE_PER_CPU_ALIGNED(struct qnode, qnodes[MAX_NODES]);
>> Yes, both debug and mce exceptions are some kind of NMIs. So
>> theoretically, it is possible to have more than four. Are you aware of
>> any debug and MCE exception handlers that need to take a spinlock for
>> synchronization?
> On arm64 if all the RAS and psuedo-NMI patches land, our worst-case interleaving
> jumps to at least 7. The culprit is APEI using spinlocks to protect fixmap slots.
>
> I have an RFC to bump the number of node bits from 2 to 3, but as this is APEI
> four times, it may be preferable to make it use something other than spinlocks.
>
>
> The worst-case order is below. Each one masks those before it:
> 1. process context
> 2. soft-irq
> 3. hard-irq
> 4. psuedo-nmi [0]
>    - using the irqchip priorities to configure some IRQs as NMI.
> 5. SError [1]
>    - a bit like an asynchronous MCE. ACPI allows this to convey CPER records,
>      requiring an APEI call.
> 6&7. SDEI [2]
>      - a firmware triggered software interrupt, only its two of them, either of
>        which could convey CPER records.
> 8. Synchronous external abort

Nested spinlocks isn't a problem as long as no more than 4 of them are
contended.

Adding one more bit for node will halving the number of CPUs supported
without going to the slower version with a single pending bit.

Cheers,
Longman


  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-10 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-10  8:02 Zhenzhong Duan
2019-01-10 14:43 ` Waiman Long
2019-01-10 18:25   ` James Morse
2019-01-10 19:23     ` Waiman Long [this message]
2019-01-10 20:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-11 18:32       ` James Morse
2019-01-14 13:16         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-14 13:54           ` James Morse
2019-01-14 21:07             ` Waiman Long
2019-01-18 10:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-18 10:24               ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-18 14:50               ` Waiman Long
2019-01-18 20:06                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-18 21:30                   ` Waiman Long
     [not found]   ` <2eca6f60-3e8b-a389-27cb-8adbd9676607@oracle.com>
2019-01-11  9:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-11 17:36       ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-11 16:59     ` Waiman Long
2019-01-10 20:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-14  9:25 Zhenzhong Duan

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