From: Aakarsh Jain <aakarsh.jain@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, "Miao, Jun" <jun.miao@intel.com>
Cc: "tglx@kernel.org" <tglx@kernel.org>,
"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"m.szyprowski@samsung.com" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
"robin.murphy@arm.com" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] x86/pci-dma: add a SWIOTLB_ANY flag to lift the low mem limitation
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2026 11:24:42 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0e1c5b0e-9442-4fcb-936a-dedbe7b1f8a5@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260624051151.GEajtnF44jZ6hlnIhi@fat_crate.local>
Hi Borislav,
On 6/24/2026 10:41 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 03:23:39AM +0000, Miao, Jun wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 01:53:39AM +0000, Miao, Jun wrote:
>>>> Good suggestion and thank you for testing the ADM SEV-SNP.
>>>
>>> I don't think anyone tested it on SNP yet.
>>
>> I only know that SEV-SNP is a more advanced, third-generation feature.
>> Are we using "SEV" here as a shorthand for these?
>
> You have SEV, SEV-ES and SEV-SNP in the order of their appearance and in the
> order they have gotten additional features. SNP is the one which is has
> addressed the most if not all? confidential VM attack vectors. And that's the
> one I care about as the other two are just the prerequisites to the SNP thing.
> In my opinion only anyway.
>
>> When using confidential VMs, users want to pass through both the high-speed
>> network interface card (NIC) or an 8-GPUs setup into the CVMs. During data
>> transfer, the SWIOTLB bounce buffer becomes a critical "hot path" acting as
>> an intermediary for convertor between private and shared memory.
>> consequently, the capacity requirement increases—otherwise, network or data
>> transfer performance would be adversely affected.
>
> Yes, that makes more sense. Pls add it to the commit message.
>
>> What I mean to convey is that in TEE environments based on AMD SEV or Intel TDX,
>> the core issue is the lack of trust in the hypervisor's VMM.
>
> Then say it this way. Trusted hypervisor sounds like we trust the HV. Which we
> absolutely do not.
>
>> When using confidential VMs, users want to pass through both the high-speed
>> network interface card (NIC) or an 8-GPUs setup into the CVMs. During data
>> transfer, the SWIOTLB bounce buffer becomes a critical "hot path" acting as
>> an intermediary for convertor between private and shared memory.
>> consequently, the capacity requirement increases—otherwise, network or data
>> transfer performance would be adversely affected
>>
>> Confidential VMs include AMD SEV and Intel TDX guests want to allocate
>> a swiotlb buffer that is not restricted to low memory in TEE.
>
> Sounds better, yes.
>
> Except that we still need to test it on SNP.
>
> Adding some folks on Cc who can do that and take a look at your patch and vet
> it for SNP - my guest is still broken. :-\
>
I tested this patch on a SEV-SNP guest and it works as expected. The
SWIOTLB buffer is now allocated above the 4 GB low-memory boundary,
confirming that the SWIOTLB_ANY flag takes effect on SNP as well. I was
also able to scale the bounce buffer size up to support larger
networking workloads.
From kernel dmesg logs:
root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# dmesg | grep -i sev
[ 21.191917] Memory Encryption Features active: AMD SEV SEV-ES SEV-SNP
[ 21.192883] SEV: Status: SEV SEV-ES SEV-SNP
[ 21.401897] SEV: APIC: wakeup_secondary_cpu() replaced with
wakeup_cpu_via_vmgexit()
[ 22.117267] SEV: Using SNP CPUID table, 28 entries present.
[ 22.117884] SEV: SNP running at VMPL0.
[ 24.164260] SEV: SNP guest platform devices initialized.
[ 28.815142] systemd[1]: Detected confidential virtualization sev-snp.
[ 30.063831] sev-guest sev-guest: Initialized SEV guest driver (using
VMPCK0 communication key)
root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# dmesg | grep -i "IO TLB"
[ 6.743607] software IO TLB: area num 4.
[ 24.164169] software IO TLB: mapped [mem
0x0000001df9c00000-0x0000001ff9c00000] (8192MB)
[ 24.331266] software IO TLB: Memory encryption is active and system
is using DMA bounce buffers
root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#
Thanks,
Aakarsh> Thx.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-24 5:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2026-02-12 9:37 ` Jun Miao
2026-02-12 10:11 ` Marek Szyprowski
2026-03-18 10:24 ` Miao, Jun
2026-06-01 5:38 ` Aakarsh Jain
2026-06-01 5:54 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-06-24 1:22 ` Miao, Jun
2026-06-24 1:43 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-06-24 1:53 ` Miao, Jun
2026-06-24 2:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-06-24 3:23 ` Miao, Jun
2026-06-24 5:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-06-24 5:54 ` Aakarsh Jain [this message]
2026-06-24 17:23 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-06-24 8:12 ` Miao, Jun
2026-06-24 9:54 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
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