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From: Rong Zhang <i@rong.moe>
To: Kurt Borja <kuurtb@gmail.com>
Cc: "Derek J. Clark" <derekjohn.clark@gmail.com>,
	"Mark Pearson" <mpearson-lenovo@squebb.ca>,
	"Armin Wolf" <W_Armin@gmx.de>, "Hans de Goede" <hansg@kernel.org>,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Guenter Roeck" <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 7/7] platform/x86: lenovo-wmi-other: Add HWMON for fan reporting/tuning
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2026 22:18:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0e7dfebcaa4509e907faa7b43fc8d49ca6729ca2.camel@rong.moe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DFPEEI5LNJXZ.2E32AHA8VUJW3@gmail.com>

Hi Kurt,

On Thu, 2026-01-15 at 14:09 -0500, Kurt Borja wrote:
> On Thu Jan 15, 2026 at 11:57 AM -05, Rong Zhang wrote:
> > Hi Kurt,
> > 
> > On Thu, 2026-01-15 at 08:58 -0500, Kurt Borja wrote:
> > > On Thu Jan 15, 2026 at 8:03 AM -05, Rong Zhang wrote:
> > > > Hi Kurt,
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 2026-01-14 at 19:16 -0500, Kurt Borja wrote:
> > > > > Hi Rong,
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed Jan 14, 2026 at 7:27 AM -05, Rong Zhang wrote:
> > > > > > Register an HWMON device for fan reporting/tuning according to
> > > > > > Capability Data 00 (capdata00) and Fan Test Data (capdata_fan) provided
> > > > > > by lenovo-wmi-capdata. The corresponding HWMON nodes are:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  - fanX_enable: enable/disable the fan (tunable)
> > > > > >  - fanX_input: current RPM
> > > > > >  - fanX_max: maximum RPM
> > > > > >  - fanX_min: minimum RPM
> > > > > >  - fanX_target: target RPM (tunable)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Information from capdata00 and capdata_fan are used to control the
> > > > > > visibility and constraints of HWMON attributes. Fan info from capdata00
> > > > > > is collected on bind, while fan info from capdata_fan is collected in a
> > > > > > callback. Once all fan info is collected, register the HWMON device.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Rong Zhang <i@rong.moe>
> > > > > > Reviewed-by: Derek J. Clark <derekjohn.clark@gmail.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/wmi/devices/lenovo-wmi-other.rst b/Documentation/wmi/devices/lenovo-wmi-other.rst
> > > > > > index 821282e07d93c..bd1d733ff286d 100644
> > > > > > --- a/Documentation/wmi/devices/lenovo-wmi-other.rst
> > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/wmi/devices/lenovo-wmi-other.rst
> > > > > > @@ -31,6 +31,8 @@ under the following path:
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >    /sys/class/firmware-attributes/lenovo-wmi-other/attributes/<attribute>/
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > +Additionally, this driver also exports attributes to HWMON.
> > > > > > +
> > > > > >  LENOVO_CAPABILITY_DATA_00
> > > > > >  -------------------------
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > @@ -39,6 +41,11 @@ WMI GUID ``362A3AFE-3D96-4665-8530-96DAD5BB300E``
> > > > > >  The LENOVO_CAPABILITY_DATA_00 interface provides various information that
> > > > > >  does not rely on the gamezone thermal mode.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > +The following HWMON attributes are implemented:
> > > > > > + - fanX_enable: enable/disable the fan (tunable)
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was testing this series and I'm a bit confused about fanX_enable.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for testing!
> > > 
> > > Thanks for working on this!
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Judging by this comment and also by taking a quick look at the code, it
> > > > > looks like writting 0 to this attribute disables the fan.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is however (per hwmon ABI documentation [1]) not how this attribute
> > > > > should work. IIUC, it is intended for devices which can disable the fan
> > > > > sensor, not the actual fan.
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm, what a confusing name :-/
> > > > 
> > > > > I fail to see how this feature is useful and I also find it dangerous
> > > > > for this to be exposed by default, considering the same could be
> > > > > achieved with the relaxed module parameter, which at least tells the
> > > > > user to be careful.
> > > > 
> > > > Makes sense. I will remove the attribute and mention such behavior in
> > > > the module parameter.
> > > 
> > > Also, it would be worth to mention that writting 0 to the fanY_target
> > > attribute is auto mode, right?
> > 
> > Ah, yes.
> > 
> > > I was testing the fanX_target attribute and it does work as intended,
> > > i.e. the fan speed changes to the desired speed. However, every time I
> > > write to this attribute I'm getting -EIO error and it always reads 0.
> > > 
> > > For example:
> > > 
> > > 	$ echo 3550 | sudo tee fan*_target
> > > 	3550
> > > 	tee: fan1_target: Input/output error
> > > 	tee: fan2_target: Input/output error
> > > 	$ cat fan*_target
> > > 	0
> > > 	0
> > > 
> > > But as I said, the fans do reach the desired speed (an approximation of
> > > it):
> > > 
> > > 	$ cat fan*_input
> > > 	3500
> > > 	3500
> > > 
> > > This is a bit weird, but I haven't look in depth into it. I will find
> > > some time to do it later. This happens on a 83KY (Legion 7 16IAX1)
> > > laptop.
> > 
> > I'd like to fix it in the next revision. Looking forward to your
> > progress in debugging :-)
> > 
> > It seems to me that the corresponding ACPI method did not return 1 on
> > success. There should be some clues in the decompiled ASL code. Could
> > you attach it in your reply? The HWMON implementation was developed
> > mostly based on my understanding on the decompiled ASL code of my
> > device. I'd like to check the one of your device as a cross-reference
> > to see if there are more potential bugs.
> 
> Yep, the ACPI method retval is 0 instead of 1.

Given the divergence between your device and mine, I think we could
just accept both 0 and 1. That should be fine considering that we've
strictly checked LENOVO_CAPABILITY_DATA_00 and LENOVO_FAN_TEST_DATA
before exposing fan channels.

> Here is a snippet of what I believe is the fan control stuff on my
> device (L: 50393):
> 
> 
> 	If ((SFV0 == 0x04030001))
> 	{
> 		Local0 = (SFV1 / 0x64)
> 		^^PC00.LPCB.EC0.LECR (0xD1, One, Local0, 0x02)
> 		Return (Zero)
> 	}
> 
> 	If ((SFV0 == 0x04030002))
> 	{
> 		Local0 = (SFV1 / 0x64)
> 		^^PC00.LPCB.EC0.LECR (0xD1, 0x02, Local0, 0x02)
> 		Return (Zero)
> 	}
> 
> 	If ((SFV0 == 0x04030004))
> 	{
> 		Local0 = (SFV1 / 0x64)
> 		^^PC00.LPCB.EC0.LECR (0xD1, 0x03, Local0, 0x02)
> 		Return (Zero)
> 	}

On my device, 0x04030001 always returns 1 after writing to EC
registers. 0x04030002 is a stub and always returns 0. That was the
reason why I assumed 1 => success and 0 => failure. Here's the
corresponding code snippet on my device:

   If ((DEV1 == 0x04))
   {
       If ((FEA1 == 0x03))
       {
           Local0 = Buffer (0x06){}
           Local0 [Zero] = 0x46
           If ((TYP1 == One))
           {
               Local1 = ToInteger (DAT1)
               If ((Local1 == Zero))
               {
                   Local0 [One] = 0x84
               }
               Else
               {
                   MBGS ("Fan1S")
                   Local0 [One] = 0x85
                   Divide (Local1, 0x64, Local2, Local1)
                   Local0 [0x02] = Local1
               }
           }
   
           If ((TYP1 == 0x02))
           {
               MBGS ("Fan2S")
               Return (Zero)
           }
   
           \_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.ERCD (Local0)
           Return (One)
       }
   
       If ((FEA1 == 0x04))
       {
           MBGS ("wSet FanNoise")
           DB2H (DAT1)
           \_SB.FANL = DAT1 /* \_SB_.GZFD.WMAE.DAT1 */
           Notify (\_TZ.VFAN, 0x80) // Status Change
       }
   }

> You can find the full acpidump attached in this email.

Thanks for that.

> Do you have any idea of what 0x04030004 might be?

It's "system fan". See
https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAFqHKTkOZUfDb8cGbGnVPCS9wNbOBsiyOk_MkZR-2_Za6ZPMng@mail.gmail.com/

> This laptop only has 2
> fans. FW bug?

Nope, that's not a bug as long as LENOVO_CAPABILITY_DATA_00 or
LENOVO_FAN_TEST_DATA only indicates the presence of fan 1&2. Lenovo
usually reuses a lot of ASL code among different SKUs, with some other
mechanism to gate inapplicable functionalities.

So I quickly glanced at the decompiled ASL code of your device...

Method WQA9 is LENOVO_CAPABILITY_DATA_00, and it only exposes fan 4 on
specific SKUs (L: 47975):

   If (((GSKU == 0x02) || (GSKU == 0x03)))
   {
       Return (Buffer (0x0C)
       {
           /* 0000 */  0x04, 0x00, 0x03, 0x04, 0x07, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00,
           /* 0008 */  0x01, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00
       })
   }
   Else
   {
       Return (Buffer (0x0C)
       {
           /* 0000 */  0x04, 0x00, 0x03, 0x04, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00,
           /* 0008 */  0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00
       })
   }

I assume your device should return the latter buffer, indicating fan 4
does not exist. That being said, it won't be surprising if the former
one is returned -- my device's LENOVO_CAPABILITY_DATA_00 indicates the
presence of fan 1&2 while LENOVO_FAN_TEST_DATA only exposes fan 1.

Method WQAB is LENOVO_FAN_TEST_DATA (L: 48195). It exposes fan 1&2,
declaring their RPM range to be [1700,5700].

   Return (Buffer (0x1C)
   {
       /* 0000 */  0x02, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x01, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00,
       /* 0008 */  0x02, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x44, 0x16, 0x00, 0x00,
       /* 0010 */  0x44, 0x16, 0x00, 0x00, 0xA4, 0x06, 0x00, 0x00,
       /* 0018 */  0xA4, 0x06, 0x00, 0x00
   })

So these WMI interfaces on your device are implemented mostly well.
LENOVO_FAN_TEST_DATA is enough to prevent fan 4 from being exposed on
your device.

Thanks,
Rong

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-16 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-14 12:27 [PATCH v9 0/7] platform/x86: lenovo-wmi-{capdata,other}: Add HWMON for fan speed Rong Zhang
2026-01-14 12:27 ` [PATCH v9 1/7] platform/x86: lenovo-wmi-helpers: Convert returned buffer into u32 Rong Zhang
2026-01-14 12:27 ` [PATCH v9 2/7] platform/x86: Rename lenovo-wmi-capdata01 to lenovo-wmi-capdata Rong Zhang
2026-01-14 12:27 ` [PATCH v9 3/7] platform/x86: lenovo-wmi-{capdata,other}: Support multiple Capability Data Rong Zhang
2026-01-14 12:27 ` [PATCH v9 4/7] platform/x86: lenovo-wmi-capdata: Add support for Capability Data 00 Rong Zhang
2026-01-14 12:27 ` [PATCH v9 5/7] platform/x86: lenovo-wmi-capdata: Add support for Fan Test Data Rong Zhang
2026-01-14 12:27 ` [PATCH v9 6/7] platform/x86: lenovo-wmi-capdata: Wire up " Rong Zhang
2026-01-14 12:27 ` [PATCH v9 7/7] platform/x86: lenovo-wmi-other: Add HWMON for fan reporting/tuning Rong Zhang
2026-01-15  0:16   ` Kurt Borja
2026-01-15 13:03     ` Rong Zhang
2026-01-15 13:58       ` Kurt Borja
2026-01-15 16:57         ` Rong Zhang
2026-01-15 17:45           ` Derek J. Clark
2026-01-15 18:19             ` Kurt Borja
2026-01-16 14:01             ` Rong Zhang
     [not found]           ` <DFPEEI5LNJXZ.2E32AHA8VUJW3@gmail.com>
2026-01-16 14:18             ` Rong Zhang [this message]
2026-01-16 17:17               ` Kurt Borja

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