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From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v26 00/10] Simple Donor Migration for Proxy Execution
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2026 21:09:31 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f5b0dd9-ef6e-462b-ac89-6f37c4261241@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260403143819.GC2872@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hello Peter,

On 4/3/2026 8:08 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 03, 2026 at 07:13:29PM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> On 4/3/2026 4:58 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 03, 2026 at 03:55:22PM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
>>>>>> @@ -4256,6 +4277,15 @@ int try_to_wake_up(struct task_struct *p, unsigned int state, int wake_flags)
>>>>>>  		 */
>>>>>>  		smp_cond_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu, !VAL);
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> +		/*
>>>>>> +		 * We never clear the blocked_on relation on proxy_deactivate.
>>>>>> +		 * If we don't clear it here, we have TASK_RUNNING + p->blocked_on
>>>>>> +		 * when waking up. Since this is a fully blocked, off CPU task
>>>>>> +		 * waking up, it should be safe to clear the blocked_on relation.
>>>>>> +		 */
>>>>>> +		if (task_is_blocked(p))
>>>>>> +			clear_task_blocked_on(p, NULL);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>
>>>>> Aah, yes! This is when find_proxy_task() hits deactivate() for us and we
>>>>> skip ttwu_runnable(). We still need to clear ->blocked_on.
>>>
>>> I wonder, should we have proxy_deactivate() do this instead?
>>
>> That is one way to tackle that, yes!
> 
> OK, lets put it there. At that site we already know task_is_blocked()
> and we get less noise in the wakeup path.
> 
> Or should we perhaps put it in block_task() itself? The moment you're
> off the runqueue, ->blocked_on becomes meaningless.

Ack but I'll have to point you to these next bits in John's tree that
handles sleeping owner
https://github.com/johnstultz-work/linux-dev/commit/255c9e933edf5b86e29f9fbde67738fc5041a862

Essentially, going further, when the blocked_on chain encounters a
blocked owner, they'll block themselves and attach onto the sleeping
owner - when the owner wakes up, the whole chain is activated in one go
restoring proxy.

This is why John has suggested that block_task() is probably not the
right place to clear it since, for the sleeping owner bits, we need to
preserve the blocked_on realation until ttwu().

I have some ideas but let me first see if I can stop them from
exploding on my system :-)

> 
>>>>>
>>>>>>  		cpu = select_task_rq(p, p->wake_cpu, &wake_flags);
>>>>>>  		if (task_cpu(p) != cpu) {
>>>>>>  			if (p->in_iowait) {
>>>>>> @@ -6977,6 +7007,10 @@ static void __sched notrace __schedule(int sched_mode)
>>>>>>  		switch_count = &prev->nvcsw;
>>>>>>  	}
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> +	/* See: https://github.com/kudureranganath/linux/commit/0d6a01bb19db39f045d6f0f5fb4d196500091637 */
>>>>>> +	if (!prev_state && task_is_blocked(prev))
>>>>>> +		clear_task_blocked_on(prev, NULL);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>
>>>>> This one confuses me, ttwu() should never results in ->blocked_on being
>>>>> set.
>>>>
>>>> This is from the signal_pending_state() in try_to_block_task() putting
>>>> prev to TASK_RUNNING while still having p->blocked_on.
>>>
>>> Ooh, I misread that. I saw that set_task_blocked_on_waking(, NULL) in
>>> there and though it would clear. Damn, sometimes reading is so very
>>> hard...
>>>
>>> Anyhow, with my changes on, try_to_block_task() is only ever called from
>>> __schedule() on current. This means this could in fact be
>>> clear_task_blocked_on(), right?
>>
>> Yes, that should work too but there is also the case you mentioned on
>> the parallel thread - if ttwu() doesn't see p->blocked_on, it won't
>> clear it and if ttwu_runnable() wins we can simply go into
>> __schedule() with TASK_RUNNING + p->blocked_on with no guarantee that
>> same task will be picked again. Then the task gets preempted and stays
>> in an illegal state.
>>
>> Clearing of ->blocked_on in schedule also safeguards against that race:
>>
>> o Scenario 1: ttwu_runnable() wins
>>
>>   CPU0				CPU1
>>
>>   LOCK				ACQUIRE
>>   [W] ->blocked_on = lock       [R] ->__state
>>   [W] ->__state = state;        RMB
>>                                 [R] ->blocked_on
>>                                 [W] ->__state = RUNNING
>>
>>            /* Synchronized by rq_lock */
>>
>>   MB
>>   [R] if (!->__state &&
>>   [R]     ->blocked_on)
>>   [W]   ->blocked_on = NULL; /* Safeguard */
>>
>>
>> o Scenario 2: __schedule() wins
>>
>>   CPU0				CPU1
>>
>>   LOCK				ACQUIRE
>>   [W] ->blocked_on = lock       [R] ->__state
>>   [W] ->__state = state;
>>
>>            /* Synchronized by rq_lock */
>>   MB
>>   [W]  __block_task()
>>
>>                                 MB
>>                                 /* Full wakeup. */
>>                                 [R] if (->blocked_on)
>>                                 [W]   ->blocked_on = NULL
>>
> 
> Oh Boohoo :-( Yes, you're quite right.
> 
> Is find_proxy_task() that is affected, so this fixup should
> perhaps live in the existing sched_proxy_exec() branch?
> 
> Something like so?
> 
> 
> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -2222,6 +2222,13 @@ static bool block_task(struct rq *rq, st
>  {
>  	int flags = DEQUEUE_NOCLOCK;
>  
> +	/*
> +	 * We're being taken off the runqueue, cannot still be blocked_on
> +	 * anything. This also means that delay_dequeue can not have
> +	 * blocked_on.
> +	 */
> +	clear_task_blocked_on(p, NULL);
> +	

Oh! I remember why we couldn't do this - if we clear the
"blocked_on" via proxy_deactivate(), we might be delayed on
the owner's CPU *outside* of the task's affinity.

In that case, we don't want to re-enqueue it there since it'll
violate affinity and the "blocked_on" relation forces it down
the sched_proxy_exec() path in ttwu_runnable() which will fix
it via a full wakeup.

>  	p->sched_contributes_to_load =
>  		(task_state & TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE) &&
>  		!(task_state & TASK_NOLOAD) &&
> @@ -6614,7 +6621,7 @@ static bool try_to_block_task(struct rq
>  	if (signal_pending_state(task_state, p)) {
>  		WRITE_ONCE(p->__state, TASK_RUNNING);
>  		*task_state_p = TASK_RUNNING;
> -		set_task_blocked_on_waking(p, NULL);
> +		clear_task_blocked_on(p, NULL);

This is not strictly required - since we set the "*task_state_p" to
TASK_RUNNING which modifies "prev_state" in __schedule() ...

>  
>  		return false;
>  	}
> @@ -7043,6 +7050,14 @@ static void __sched notrace __schedule(i
>  	if (sched_proxy_exec()) {
>  		struct task_struct *prev_donor = rq->donor;
>  
> +		/*
> +		 * There is a race between ttwu() and __mutex_lock_common()
> +		 * where it is possible for the mutex code to call into
> +		 * schedule() with ->blocked_on still set.
> +		 */
> +		if (!prev_state && prev->blocked_on)
> +			clear_task_blocked_on(prev, NULL);

... we'll just end up seeing !prev_state here and clearing it.

We can keep them separate too to make it very explicit. No
strong feelings.

> +
>  		rq_set_donor(rq, next);
>  		if (unlikely(next->blocked_on)) {
>  			next = find_proxy_task(rq, next, &rf);
> 

-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-03 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-24 19:13 John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 01/10] sched: Make class_schedulers avoid pushing current, and get rid of proxy_tag_curr() John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 02/10] sched: Minimise repeated sched_proxy_exec() checking John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 03/10] sched: Fix potentially missing balancing with Proxy Exec John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 04/10] locking: Add task::blocked_lock to serialize blocked_on state John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 05/10] sched: Fix modifying donor->blocked on without proper locking John Stultz
2026-03-26 21:45   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 06/10] sched/locking: Add special p->blocked_on==PROXY_WAKING value for proxy return-migration John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 07/10] sched: Add assert_balance_callbacks_empty helper John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 08/10] sched: Add logic to zap balance callbacks if we pick again John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 09/10] sched: Move attach_one_task and attach_task helpers to sched.h John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 10/10] sched: Handle blocked-waiter migration (and return migration) John Stultz
2026-03-26 22:52   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-27  4:47     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-27 12:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-02 14:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-02 15:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-02 17:43       ` John Stultz
2026-04-02 17:34     ` John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-25 10:52 ` [PATCH v26 00/10] Simple Donor Migration for Proxy Execution K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-27 11:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-27 13:33     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-27 15:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-27 15:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-27 16:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-27 16:57         ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-02 15:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-02 18:31             ` John Stultz
2026-04-02 21:04               ` John Stultz
2026-04-03  6:09               ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-03  9:52                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-03 10:25                   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-03 11:28                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-03 13:43                       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-03 14:38                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-03 15:39                           ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2026-04-03 21:08                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-04  0:26                             ` John Stultz
2026-04-04  5:49                               ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-04  6:07                                 ` John Stultz
2026-04-06  2:40                                   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-03 12:54                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-03  9:18               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-27 19:15     ` John Stultz
2026-03-27 19:10   ` John Stultz
2026-03-28  4:53     ` K Prateek Nayak

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