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From: Thomas Haas <t.haas@tu-bs.de>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
	Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Lustig" <dlustig@nvidia.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	<lkmm@lists.linux.dev>
Cc: <hernan.poncedeleon@huaweicloud.com>,
	<jonas.oberhauser@huaweicloud.com>,
	"r.maseli@tu-bs.de" <r.maseli@tu-bs.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Potential problem in qspinlock due to mixed-size accesses
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2025 20:05:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f7f3317-7a96-44f2-a3e7-a49f75bcd6aa@tu-bs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cb83e3e4-9e22-4457-bf61-5614cc4396ad@tu-bs.de>

On 12.06.25 16:55, Thomas Haas wrote:
> We have been taking a look if mixed-size accesses (MSA) can affect the 
> correctness of qspinlock.
> We are focusing on aarch64 which is the only memory model with MSA 
> support [1].
> For this we extended the dartagnan [2] tool to support MSA and now it 
> reports liveness, synchronization, and mutex issues.

--- cut off ---

ARM has recently fixed the issue on their side by strengthening the 
memory model (see 
https://github.com/herd/herdtools7/commit/2b7921a44a61766e23a1234767d28af696b436a0)

With the updated ARM-MSA model, Dartagnan does no longer find violations 
in qspinlock. No patches needed :)

With best regards,
Thomas




  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-17 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-12 14:55 Thomas Haas
2025-06-13  7:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-13 11:17   ` Andrea Parri
     [not found]     ` <9264df13-36db-4b25-b2c4-7a9701df2f4d@tu-bs.de>
2025-06-16  6:21       ` Andrea Parri
2025-06-16 14:11         ` Alan Stern
2025-06-17 14:09           ` Andrea Parri
2025-06-19 14:27             ` Thomas Haas
2025-06-19 14:32               ` Alan Stern
2025-06-19 14:59                 ` Thomas Haas
2025-06-19 17:56                   ` Alan Stern
2025-06-19 18:21                     ` Thomas Haas
2025-06-16 14:23   ` Will Deacon
2025-06-17  6:19     ` Thomas Haas
2025-06-17  8:42       ` Hernan Ponce de Leon
2025-06-17 14:17         ` Will Deacon
2025-06-17 14:23           ` Thomas Haas
2025-06-17 19:00             ` Hernan Ponce de Leon
2025-06-19 12:30               ` Will Deacon
2025-06-19 14:11                 ` Thomas Haas
2025-06-18  6:51   ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-06-18 12:11     ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-12-17 19:05 ` Thomas Haas [this message]
2025-12-18 22:02   ` Andrea Parri

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