From: "Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)" <chleroy@kernel.org>
To: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
Viktor Malik <vmalik@redhat.com>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] uaccess: unify inline vs outline copy_{from,to}_user() selection
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2026 18:49:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f9567b8-d598-40fc-b364-418e739b1f9f@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <acVsw4QQEuKzp9gF@yury>
Le 26/03/2026 à 18:29, Yury Norov a écrit :
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 02:44:40PM +0100, Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP) wrote:
>>
>>
>> Le 25/03/2026 à 17:33, Yury Norov a écrit :
>>> The kernel allows arches to select between inline and outline
>>> implementations of the copy_{from,to}_user() by defining individual
>>> INLINE_COPY_FROM_USER and INLINE_COPY_TO_USER, correspondingly.
>>> However, all arches enable or disable them always together.
>>>
>>> Without the real use-case for one helper being inlined while the other
>>> outlined, having independent controls is excessive and error prone.
>>>
>>> Switch the codebase to the single unified INLINE_COPY_USER control.
>>
>> Could we use a (non user selectable) Kconfig item instead, e.g.
>> CONFIG_ARCH_WANT_OUTLINE_USER_COPY ?
>
> This sounds interesting. I need to wrap it around my head for a while.
> Right now, I believe, the best solution is to isolate this setting
> from the sources as much as we can, and your suggestion looks like a
> step forward.
>
> Overall, I'm puzzled why some arches enable this while the others
> don't. The next question is why copy_{from,to}_user is so special.
> If this function benefits from being inlined for that particular
> arch or compiler, which functions would also benefit and why?
>
> Reasoning logically, if this WANT_INLINE thing makes sense, it would
> make much more sense if we create a machinery for something like:
>
> unsigned long __arch_inline copy_to_user();
>
>> Also, looks like only powerpc doesn't select INLINE_COPY. Would it be
>> cleaner to change the logic to a flag for OUTLINE_COPY ?
>
> How that? x86_64 outlines it. Check it yourself:
>
> @@ -206,7 +206,9 @@ _inline_copy_to_user(void __user *to, const void *from, unsigned long n)
> #ifdef INLINE_COPY_USER
> # define _copy_to_user _inline_copy_to_user
> # define _copy_from_user _inline_copy_from_user
> +#error INLINE_COPY_USER
> #else
> +#error OUTLINE_COPY_USER
> extern __must_check unsigned long
> _copy_from_user(void *, const void __user *, unsigned long);
>
> If it was really a single arch, it would be worth to discuss what for do
> we need this customization at all.
Hum ... You are right. I don't know why, I thought powerpc was the only one.
Nevertheless, among the 21 architectures in arch/ , 17 of them select
INLINE_COPY_FROM_USER, which means only 4 don't define it.
So might still be interesting to reverse the logic, then only 4 arches
will have to select it, similar to the exemple below with powerpc:
diff --git a/arch/powerpc/Kconfig b/arch/powerpc/Kconfig
index ad7a2fe63a2a..58743cb0e305 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/powerpc/Kconfig
@@ -186,6 +186,7 @@ config PPC
select ARCH_WANT_IRQS_OFF_ACTIVATE_MM
select ARCH_WANT_LD_ORPHAN_WARN
select ARCH_WANT_OPTIMIZE_DAX_VMEMMAP if PPC_RADIX_MMU
+ select ARCH_WANT_OUTLINE_USER_COPY
select ARCH_WANTS_MODULES_DATA_IN_VMALLOC if PPC_BOOK3S_32 || PPC_8xx
select ARCH_WEAK_RELEASE_ACQUIRE
select BINFMT_ELF
diff --git a/lib/Kconfig b/lib/Kconfig
index 0f2fb9610647..0106c1facfa4 100644
--- a/lib/Kconfig
+++ b/lib/Kconfig
@@ -550,6 +550,9 @@ config ARCH_HAS_UACCESS_FLUSHCACHE
config ARCH_HAS_COPY_MC
bool
+config ARCH_WANT_OUTLINE_USER_COPY
+ bool
+
# Temporary. Goes away when all archs are cleaned up
config ARCH_STACKWALK
bool
Christophe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-26 17:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-25 16:33 [PATCH 0/2] " Yury Norov
2026-03-25 16:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Yury Norov
2026-03-26 13:44 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-03-26 17:29 ` Yury Norov
2026-03-26 17:49 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP) [this message]
2026-03-25 16:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] uaccess: minimize INLINE_COPY_USER-related ifdefery Yury Norov
2026-03-26 8:00 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-26 14:15 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-04-24 19:50 ` Yury Norov
2026-04-25 10:37 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-03-25 23:31 ` [PATCH 0/2] uaccess: unify inline vs outline copy_{from,to}_user() selection Andrew Morton
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