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From: Daniel Robbins <drobbins@gentoo.org>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: andrea@suse.de, alan@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	Terrence Ripperda <ripperda@nvidia.com>,
	drobbins@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: Athlon PSE/AGP Bug
Date: 22 Jan 2002 01:05:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1011686749.7126.60.camel@inventor.gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020121.230856.71191773.davem@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020122013909.N8292@athlon.random> <20020121.170822.32749723.davem@redhat.com> <20020122070517.GK135220@niksula.cs.hut.fi>  <20020121.230856.71191773.davem@redhat.com>

On Tue, 2002-01-22 at 00:08, David S. Miller wrote:
> Yes, Gareth Hughes @ NVIDIA understands very well that this can still
> be just a heisenbug.
> 
> There is still no hard proof that not using 4M pages really fixes
> anything AMD states is wrong with their chips.

Well, it's clear that either NVIDIA, AMD or the general opinion held by
the majority Linux kernel guys is wrong.  I'm eager to find out the
truth behind the matter so that the parties involved can work towards a
solution, whatever that may be.  

It'd be a bummer if I find that the explanation that NVIDIA gave me
turns out to be false.  But it seems that there may be a real issue
here.  I have received quite a few reports (and read in quite a few
comments posted on sites) that mem=nopentium solved a variety of strange
stability-related issues related to PCI/AGP devices.  It may turn out
that the Athlon does have a problem with ends of DMA push buffers
aligned to 4Mb page boundaries.  mem=nopentium seems to have fixed audio
and other types of lock-ups as well.  Note that AMD told me on the phone
this morning that the issue Terrence found (and the AMD Windows 2000
patch was created to solve) did *not* corellate with the published AMD
errata that everyone on LKML is talking about, but was in fact another
issue.  

Thankfully, the guessing will (hopefully) soon be over. AMD will be
calling me tomorrow at 3PM MST. They've reached a conclusion as to
what's going on, and I'll post the AMD's official word on gentoo.org as
soon as I get it.

Best Regards,

-- 
Daniel Robbins                                  <drobbins@gentoo.org>
Chief Architect/President                       http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.


  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-22  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-21 10:53 Reid Hekman
2002-01-21 13:37 ` David S. Miller
2002-01-21 13:50   ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-01-21 16:58     ` jepler
2002-01-21 17:26     ` Ed Sweetman
2002-01-21 16:54   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-21 18:17     ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-22  0:36       ` Steve Brueggeman
2002-01-22  1:02         ` Steve Brueggeman
2002-01-22 20:13           ` Florian Weimer
2002-01-22 22:32             ` Steve Brueggeman
2002-01-23  0:36             ` Stuart Young
2002-01-22 22:14           ` Ed Sweetman
2002-01-22 22:52             ` Steve Brueggeman
2002-01-22 23:49               ` Rik van Riel
2002-01-23  1:20               ` Rene Rebe
2002-01-23  2:01                 ` Gustavo Zacarias
2002-01-23  2:11                   ` Tom Hornyak
2002-01-22  5:45       ` Shaya Potter
2002-01-22 12:58         ` Dave Jones
2002-01-22 15:27         ` Shaya Potter
2002-01-22 18:52           ` Greg
2002-01-22 22:08           ` Rene Rebe
2002-01-21 19:11     ` Harold Campbell
2002-01-21 22:23     ` David S. Miller
2002-01-22  0:39       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-22  1:08       ` David S. Miller
2002-01-22  7:05         ` Ville Herva
2002-01-22  8:05           ` Daniel Robbins [this message]
2002-01-22  7:08         ` David S. Miller
2002-01-22  0:26     ` Stuart Young
2002-01-21 17:57   ` Reid Hekman
2002-01-21 22:14   ` David S. Miller
2002-01-21 22:19   ` David S. Miller
2002-01-22  0:37     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-22  0:43       ` Russell King
2002-01-22  0:53         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-22  0:55           ` Russell King
2002-01-22  1:07     ` David S. Miller
2002-01-22  1:27       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-01-22 16:57       ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-21 19:37 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-21 19:34   ` David Weinehall
2002-01-21 19:53   ` Sipos Ferenc
2002-01-22  6:32   ` Paul G. Allen
2002-01-22 14:12 Halpaap, Mark (CETA)
2002-01-22 14:51 ` Ed Sweetman
2002-01-22 14:51 ` João Seabra
2002-01-22 23:21 ` Ian Molton
2002-01-23 18:49 ` Marek Mentel
2002-01-22 17:59 Ben Carrell

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