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From: Steve Lord <lord@sgi.com>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Nakayama Shintaro <nakayama@tritech.co.jp>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	shojima@tritech.co.jp, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Subject: Re: BKL removal from VFS
Date: 19 Feb 2002 10:19:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1014135551.3393.103.camel@jen.americas.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0202191102430.9938-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0202191102430.9938-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>

On Tue, 2002-02-19 at 10:11, Alexander Viro wrote:
> 
> 
> On 19 Feb 2002, Steve Lord wrote:
> 
> > Al, I am not proposing this to go in, but what is your opinion on a
> > change like this? XFS does not need the BKL at all, so for some aim7
> > experiments on large systems this  patch was used to bypass the BKL for
> > filesystems which state they can live without it:
> 
> > +#define lock_kernel_optional(ip)	\
> > +	if (!(ip->i_flags & S_NOBKL))	lock_kernel()
> > +
> 
> Denied.  No way in hell that (or similar) will ever go in.  Locking must
> be consistent, _period_.  No provisions for "legacy drivers" and crap
> like that - it's a standard policy in all kernel and that had been discussed
> a lot of times.
> 
> _Please_, check 2.5.  We already don't take BKL on majority of directory
> operations.  The rest will follow pretty soon.
> 
> In particular, in current Linus' tree there are 3 (three) instances of
> lock_kernel() in fs/namei.c.  Namely, ->permission() and two calls of
> d_move().  The latter will go when ->d_parent mess is cleaned up.  The
> former will go as soon as we get to ->setattr()/->permission() cleanups -
> hopefully in a week or so.
> 
> In general, such changes are done by global lock shifting - simultaneous
> for all instances and being a trivial search-and-replace.  Once the lock
> is taken inside the method individual filesystems/drivers/etc. can
> shrink the protected areas - in separate patches.
> 
> That's how it works - and that's how it had been done for most of the methods
> already.  Magic flags that make locking different for different instances
> are Not Good.  And not needed - see above for the usual way to do that stuff.

Whoa, light blue touch paper and stand back! Like I said I was not proposing
this to go into the kernel, just asking your opinion. Yes I am aware of the
changes going into locking in 2.5 and like the way things are going there,
XFS is ticking along quite happily in 2.5.5-pre1 here.

Steve

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Steve Lord                                      voice: +1-651-683-3511
Principal Engineer, Filesystem Software         email: lord@sgi.com

  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-19 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-19  7:17 Nakayama Shintaro
2002-02-19  7:47 ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-19 15:54   ` Steve Lord
2002-02-19 16:11     ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-19 16:19       ` Steve Lord [this message]
2002-02-19 16:47         ` Alexander Viro

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