From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: InfiniBand BOF @ LSM - topics of interest
Date: 15 May 2002 09:34:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1021480474.32059.7.camel@dell_ss3.pdx.osdl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020515010107.A31154@devserv.devel.redhat.com>
On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 22:01, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
> The thing about Infiniband is that its scope is so great.
> If you consider Infiniband was only a glorified PCI with serial
> connector, the congestion control is not an issue. Credits
> are quite sufficient to provide per link flow control, and
> everything would work nicely with a couple of switches.
> Such was the original plan, anyways, but somehow cluster
> ninjas managed to hijack the spec and we have the rabid
> overengineering running amok. In fact, they ran so far
> that Intel jumped ship and created PCI Express, and we
> have discussions about congestion control. Sad, really...
>
> -- Pete
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This sounds like deja vu all over again.
Each new interconnect technology like ATM seems to go through the cycle:
Assert: all other network protocols are crap
Deny: history
Assert: our problem is different, therefore we must
reinvent everything from data transfer up to applications
Reality strikes!
New technology ends up being used with standard applications and
protocols.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-05-15 16:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-05-15 1:29 Tony.P.Lee
2002-05-15 2:35 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15 5:01 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-05-15 11:29 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15 14:27 ` Ashok Raj
2002-05-15 16:34 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
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2002-05-16 23:42 Woodruff, Robert J
2002-05-16 10:37 Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
2002-05-15 23:58 Woodruff, Robert J
2002-05-16 0:32 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15 20:47 Tony.P.Lee
2002-05-15 21:36 ` Russell Leighton
2002-05-15 22:41 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-05-16 4:51 ` Ashok Raj
2002-05-15 20:37 Woodruff, Robert J
2002-05-15 20:55 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-05-15 21:01 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 22:15 Woodruff, Robert J
2002-05-15 2:42 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-05-14 20:19 Tony.P.Lee
2002-05-14 20:42 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-05-14 23:25 ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-05-14 23:58 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15 15:45 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-05-13 16:25 Woodruff, Robert J
2002-05-13 16:36 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-05-14 20:09 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-05-14 20:23 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-05-14 20:33 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-05-14 21:01 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-05-13 23:42 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-13 23:26 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-05-14 0:19 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 0:19 ` Joel Becker
2002-05-15 0:11 ` Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
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