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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.gmd.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IDE/ATAPI in 2.5
Date: 12 Jul 2002 22:17:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1026508641.9915.13.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200207121957.g6CJvXLs018439@burner.fokus.gmd.de>

On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 20:57, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> If you are unable to use arguments, I cannot take you for serious.
> Please educate yourself about SCSI and ATAPI, this would help a lot
> haveing a serious discussion.

Unlike you I've bothered not only to learn about ATA, ATAPI and SCSI but
also to experience real world hardware, much of it less than ten years
old and some of which (especially in the USB world) can't even get
INQUIRY right let alone actually do I/O properly.

CD burning is a side issue to stability and reliability. 

In terms of supporting old hardware most of that is irrelevant to cd
recording anyway, so why do you care ? What you actually need is a
generic interface for cd packet sending.


  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-12 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 204+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-12 19:57 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-12 21:17 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2002-07-13  5:49   ` Erik Andersen
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2002-07-17 14:58 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-17 13:46 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-17 14:00 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-17 12:32 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-17 13:36 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-17 13:54 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-16 17:49 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 17:34 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 14:30 Richard Zidlicky
2002-07-16 14:06 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 14:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-07-16 14:17 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-07-16 14:02 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 12:49 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 14:28 ` Jauder Ho
2002-07-16 16:08   ` Buddy Lumpkin
2002-07-16 11:28 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16  9:33 ` James Bottomley
2002-07-16 11:43 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-16 11:47 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-07-16 11:59 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-07-16 11:02 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 10:47 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15 18:27 Nick Bellinger
2002-07-15 20:12 ` Jauder Ho
2002-07-16  7:49 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2002-07-15 15:08 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15 13:26 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16  3:16 ` Christer Weinigel
2002-07-15 13:07 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-16 10:16 ` Richard Zidlicky
2002-07-15 12:58 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15 12:27 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15 11:27 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15 14:52 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-15 11:09 James Bottomley
2002-07-15  9:20 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15 11:23 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2002-07-15 12:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-07-15 13:17 ` venom
2002-07-14 20:18 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 20:13 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 20:18 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-15  9:11   ` venom
2002-07-15 10:01 ` Richard Zidlicky
2002-07-14 20:04 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 20:15 ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 20:21   ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-14 20:27     ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0207141704280.21492-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-07-14 21:09       ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-14 21:46     ` Alan Cox
2002-07-14 20:43       ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-14 21:59         ` Alan Cox
2002-07-14 20:54           ` Sean Neakums
2002-07-14 21:09             ` Mark Hahn
2002-07-14 22:20               ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 21:07           ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-14 22:07             ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-14 22:14               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-15  3:34                 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-15  3:38                   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-15  3:44                     ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-15  4:36                       ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-14 20:45       ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-14 20:49       ` Daniel Egger
2002-07-14 19:41 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 19:51 ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 19:20 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 19:18 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 19:27 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 19:10 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 18:22 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 18:11 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 18:40 ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 19:06   ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 19:15     ` Sean Neakums
2002-07-14 19:42       ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 19:02 ` Willy TARREAU
2002-07-14 23:58 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0207150831080.29242-100000@pc-3.office.scali.no>
2002-07-15  6:54     ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-14 15:15 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 15:27 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-14 15:12 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 16:45 ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <mailman.1026651901.18426.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-07-14 15:05 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-07-14 14:28 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:45 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-14 14:52   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 14:46 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 14:25 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:20 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 15:56 ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-14 14:18 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:35 ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-14 15:00 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-14 19:13 ` Richard Zidlicky
2002-07-14 14:07 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 15:28 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-18 18:51 ` Kelsey Hudson
2002-07-14 14:00 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-15  0:29 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-14 13:55 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 13:47 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:31 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 21:23 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-14 13:26 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:28 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 13:24 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 13:39 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-14 14:10 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 14:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-07-14 16:52   ` Kurt Garloff
2002-07-14 13:17 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 14:03 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 14:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-14 13:08 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 13:59 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-14 13:02 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 12:50 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 12:44 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 12:38 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 12:32 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-14 16:01 ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-14  6:20 Adam J. Richter
2002-07-14 15:22 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-13 23:27 Adam J. Richter
2002-07-13 23:47 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-13 14:46 Adam J. Richter
2002-07-13 15:38 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-12 20:08 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-12 21:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12 19:55 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-12 20:19 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-13  5:40 ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-13 10:52   ` Anssi Saari
2002-07-14  0:35     ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-13 16:53   ` Olivier Galibert
2002-07-14  0:34     ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-16  5:46       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12 19:49 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-12 19:58 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 20:38   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 21:05 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12 19:37 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-12 19:52 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-13  6:36   ` jbradford
2002-07-13 14:25     ` Alan Cox
2002-07-13 13:55       ` Thomas Molina
2002-07-13 15:31         ` Alan Cox
2002-07-13 14:31           ` Thomas Molina
2002-07-13 14:07       ` jbradford
2002-07-13 15:32         ` Alan Cox
2002-07-13 14:36           ` jbradford
2002-07-15 11:47   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-07-15 18:44     ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 20:06 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-12 20:52 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12 19:25 Joerg Schilling
2002-07-12  0:27 H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12  0:37 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-12  1:00 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12  1:23   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-12  5:03   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12  4:13 ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-12  4:17   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12  4:44     ` Erik Andersen
2002-07-12  4:46       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12  5:03         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-12  5:11           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12 13:15             ` Alan Cox
2002-07-15 10:24             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-16  5:28               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12 12:11 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-12 12:51   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 14:17     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-12 14:29       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-12 14:41         ` Jens Axboe
2002-07-12 15:00           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-12 15:05             ` Jens Axboe
2002-07-12 15:41           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-12 15:35         ` Alan Cox
2002-07-14  8:19         ` Paul Bristow
2002-07-14  9:11           ` jbradford
2002-07-14  9:16           ` Matthew D. Pitts
2002-07-14 14:04           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-14 16:56             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 15:26     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-12 13:22   ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12 13:07     ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-12 14:06       ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12 15:34       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-07-12 17:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-12 18:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12 18:54       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-12 18:55         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-07-12 19:35         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-07-12 19:06       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-07-12 23:17     ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-12 15:02 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2002-07-12 15:10   ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-12 16:47   ` Andre Hedrick

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