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From: Steven Cole <elenstev@mesatop.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux v2.4.19-rc5
Date: 06 Aug 2002 08:07:17 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1028642837.2802.59.camel@spc9.esa.lanl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D4F50F7.2DE00276@zip.com.au>

On Mon, 2002-08-05 at 22:30, Andrew Morton wrote:
[snipped]
> 
> IO in 2.5 is much more CPU efficient that in 2.4, and straight-line
> bandwidth is better as well.
> 
> The scheduling of that IO has a few problems, so in wildly seeky loads
> like dbench the kernel still falls over its own feet a bit.  The
> two main culprits here are the lock_buffer() in block_write_full_page()
> against the blockdev mapping, and the writeback of dirty pages from the
> tail of the LRU in page reclaim.
> 
> And no, the eventual dbench numbers will not be a measure of the success
> of the tuning which will happen on the run in to 2.6.  Dbench throughput
> may well be lower, because we probably should be starting writeback
> at lower dirty thresholds.
> 
> If you want good dbench numbers:
> 
> echo 70 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_background_ratio
> echo 75 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_async_ratio
> echo 80 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_sync_ratio
> echo 30000 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_expire_centisecs

That last one looks like the biggest cheat.  Rather than optimizing for
dbench, is there a set of pessimizing numbers which would optimally turn
dbench into a semi-useful tool for measuring meaningful IO performance? 
Or is dbench really only useful for stress testing?

Thanks for the explanations.

Steven


  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-06 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-01  6:38 Marcelo Tosatti
2002-08-01  7:49 ` Jens Axboe
2002-08-01  7:14   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-08-01  8:10     ` Jens Axboe
2002-08-01  9:02       ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-01  8:58         ` Jens Axboe
2002-08-01 14:45         ` Steven Cole
2002-08-01 18:57           ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-01 20:15     ` Steven Cole
2002-08-06  3:46       ` Bill Davidsen
2002-08-06  4:30         ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-06 14:07           ` Steven Cole [this message]
2002-08-06 14:20             ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-06 17:12             ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-06  5:42         ` Jens Axboe
2002-08-06  8:30           ` Adrian Bunk
2002-08-06  8:48             ` Jens Axboe
2002-08-06 10:31           ` Lincoln Dale
2002-08-06 12:59         ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-07  1:09           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-08-07  2:54             ` Steven Cole
2002-08-07 22:30               ` Bill Davidsen
2002-08-07 22:39                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-07 23:44                   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-08-07 23:53                     ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-09 17:46                       ` Bill Davidsen
2002-08-09 19:27                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-01  7:55 ` Keith Owens
2002-08-01  8:10   ` Jens Axboe
2002-08-04  6:50   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-08-01 11:32 ` Willy TARREAU
2002-08-01 13:54   ` Alan Cox
2002-08-01 12:48     ` Willy TARREAU
2002-08-01 12:12 ` Linux v2.4.19-rc5 - APM bug Willy TARREAU
2002-08-01 13:32   ` [PANIC] APM bug with -rc4 and -rc5 Willy TARREAU
2002-08-01 14:55     ` Alan Cox
2002-08-01 13:56       ` Willy Tarreau
2002-08-01 15:24         ` Willy Tarreau
2002-08-01 16:53           ` Alan Cox
2002-08-01 16:41             ` Willy Tarreau
2002-08-01 20:35             ` [PATCH] solved APM bug with -rc5 Willy TARREAU
2002-08-01 20:52               ` Richard Gooch
2002-08-01 20:54                 ` Richard Gooch
2002-08-01 21:17                   ` Willy TARREAU
2002-08-01 22:37                     ` Alan Cox
2002-08-01 20:58                 ` Dave Jones
2002-08-01 22:16               ` Alan Cox
2002-08-01 21:07                 ` Willy Tarreau
2002-08-01 21:47                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-02  0:12                 ` [PATCH] solved APM bug with -rc5 (take 2) Willy TARREAU
2002-08-02  1:47 ` [PATCH] pdc20265 problem Nick Orlov
2002-08-02  2:29   ` Nick Orlov
2002-08-02 12:27   ` Alan Cox
2002-08-02 12:52     ` Nick Orlov
2002-08-02 14:00       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2002-08-02 14:45         ` Nick Orlov
2002-08-06  4:36 Linux v2.4.19-rc5 rwhron
2002-08-07  3:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-08-06 20:12 Peter Wong

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