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From: Miles Lane <miles.lane@attbi.com>
To: Brad Hards <bhards@bigpond.net.au>
Cc: Reg Clemens <reg@dwf.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Dont understand hdc=ide-scsi behaviour.
Date: 20 Sep 2002 07:46:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1032533179.4526.102.camel@firehose.megapathdsl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200209201646.00202.bhards@bigpond.net.au>

On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 23:46, Brad Hards wrote:
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> On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 07:08, Reg Clemens wrote:
> > I dont understand the behaviour of kernel 2.4.18 (and probably all others)
> > when I put the line
> > 		hdc=ide-scsi
> > on the load line.
> >
> > I would EXPECT to get the ide-scsi driver for hdc (my cdwriter) but instead
> > get it for BOTH hdc and hdd, the cdwriter and the zip drive.
> >
> > After starting this way (with hdc=ide-scsi), I find that
> > 	/dev/cdrom2 -> /dev/scd0
> > and that to access the zip drive I have to use /dev/sda1 (or /dev/sda4)
> There are two slightly different things happening, I think.
> 
> 1. When you say hdc=ide-scsi, you are telling the IDE system that you don't 
> want to use the normal IDE interfaces to userland (such as ide-cdrom), but 
> instead want all access to this device to be accessed through the SCSI 
> midlayer (and associated SCSI interfaces, like the sg and scd drivers). So 
> ide-scsi becomes the driver, instead of ide-cdrom. You should be able to see 
> this in /proc/ide/hdc/driver
> 
> 2. ide-scsi is greedy, and will grab any IDE device without a driver. ATAPI 
> floppy devices (hopefully) like your zip drive need the IDE floppy device 
> driver, which is probably not loaded. What does CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY 
> equal in your kernel config?
> 
> > I would EXPECT to get to them via /dev/hdd1 or /dev/hdd4.
> And you will, with the right driver loaded :-)
> 
> > Did I miss something or is this a bug????
> If you load ide-floppy before ide-scsi, and it still doesn't work, then there 
> is a bug.

Well, aren't things going to get even more confusing when we 
try to support devices like the Lacie DVD/CD Rewritable 
combo drive?  Are we going to do a better job of simply making 
all usable interfaces available, so we no longer need to switch
between drivers or twiddle driver load order?

	Miles


  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-20  7:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-19 21:08 Reg Clemens
2002-09-20  0:04 ` Allan Duncan
2002-09-20  5:51 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-09-20  6:46 ` Brad Hards
2002-09-20 14:46   ` Miles Lane [this message]
2002-09-20  7:59     ` Brad Hards
2002-09-20 18:44     ` Paul Bristow

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