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From: Piet Delaney <piet@www.piet.net>
To: Keith Owens <kaos@sgi.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@sgi.com>,
	"Matt D. Robinson" <yakker@aparity.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, steiner@sgi.com,
	jeremy@classic.engr.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.44: lkcd (9/9): dump driver and build files
Date: 22 Oct 2002 15:21:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1035325262.6847.23.camel@www.piet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8948.1035287855@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au>

On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 04:57, Keith Owens wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:47:45 -0400, 
> Christoph Hellwig <hch@sgi.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 03:06:59PM -0700, Piet Delaney wrote:
> >> > Using volatile is almost always a bug.  USe atomic variables
> >> > or bitops instead.
> >> 
> >> Yea, volatile is just being used to implement a simple atomic variable. 
> >
> >It just isn't guaranteed to be atomic.. Use atomic_t (for actual
> >values) or unsigned long + set_bit/test_bit/ænd friends for bitmasks.
> 
> atomic_t is problematic for debugging code which can be invoked by an
> error from any state.  On parisc, atomic_add is implemented using load
> and clear on a hash of the lock address, so it is possible to get
> collisions on locks when doing atomic ops from debugging code.
> Especially when the parisc code in 2.5.44 has exactly one hash table
> entry.  kdb has the same problem and tries to avoid atomic_t for the
> same reason, the current state is unreliable.
> 
> The dump_in_progress flag is set in one place and cleared in another.
> All the other uses of dump_in_progress are testing its state.  If
> atomic_t cannot be used safely, then it must be defined as volatile.

atomic_read(v) and atomic_set(v,i) seem to be safe for most platforms.

Looks like your right, for parisc even these functions are using a
spinlock. Is it really necessary for parisc to use spinlocks? Even
Solaris doesn't use spinlocks for atomic set and reads of atomic
variables.

-piet

-- 
piet@www.piet.net


  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-22 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-21 10:16 Matt D. Robinson
2002-10-21 21:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-21 19:07   ` Matt D. Robinson
2002-10-21 22:06   ` Piet Delaney
2002-10-22 18:47     ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-22 11:57       ` Keith Owens
2002-10-22 22:21         ` Piet Delaney [this message]
2002-10-22 22:56           ` Keith Owens
2002-10-22 16:49       ` Matt D. Robinson
2002-10-22  2:04   ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-10-22  5:45     ` Matt D. Robinson
2002-10-22 13:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-22 15:05   ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-10-22  9:49     ` Jens Axboe
2002-10-22 14:43       ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-10-22 14:59         ` Jens Axboe

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