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From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: Martin Mares <mj@ucw.cz>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	szepe@pinerecords.com, arjanv@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25
Date: 23 Mar 2003 15:10:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1048450211.1486.19.camel@phantasy.awol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030323195606.GA15904@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>

On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 14:56, Martin Mares wrote:

> But if you assume this, what are the official releases for anyway?

Well, official releases have always been sort of arbitrary for the
kernel... just labeled releases along the course of development. 
Although with the recent addition of the -rc patches, they tend to
ensure the latest round of development at least resulted in a stable
release.  But look at all the major vendors - their 2.4.18 release, for
example, may include whatever the latest pre-patch was at the time.

Anyhow, to answer your question: the official releases are labels along
the course of development for use by vendors, developers, and users who
(as Alan described) can manage their own kernels.

Do not get me wrong, I think users can and should compile their own
kernel if they want.  And as kernel developers, we should facilitate
that.  But if someone requires handholding and instant or controlled
releases of bug fixes, they either need to be able to rely on their own
ability to get them or their vendor.  We have vendors for a reason,
after all.

	Robert Love


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-03-23 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-17 16:04 Alan Cox
2003-03-17 17:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-03-17 18:20   ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-17 18:23     ` James Bourne
2003-03-17 18:27     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-21 21:17       ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-23 10:00         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-03-23 13:41           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 15:58             ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-23 19:25             ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 19:30               ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 19:34                 ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 19:38                   ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 19:44                     ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 19:47                       ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 19:55                         ` Henrik Persson
2003-03-23 20:13                           ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 20:46                           ` Henrik Persson
2003-03-23 19:56                         ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 20:08                           ` Russell King
2003-03-23 22:26                             ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 20:10                           ` Robert Love [this message]
2003-03-23 20:30                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 20:36                               ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-23 21:20                                 ` Martin Hermanowski
2003-03-23 21:35                                 ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 21:53                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 22:21                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 22:29                                       ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 22:57                                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24  0:15                                           ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 22:43                                       ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-03-23 22:54                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 23:19                                         ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 23:34                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24  3:35                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-24  3:54                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-24  6:56                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-03-24 12:17                                             ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 23:34                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 23:45                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24  0:07                                             ` J.A. Magallon
2003-03-24  6:52                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-03-24  0:09                                             ` Christian Axelsson
2003-03-24 20:05                                         ` aradorlinux
2003-03-23 20:38                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-03-23 20:51                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24  0:51                                   ` Juan Quintela
2003-03-24  1:29                                     ` Brian Tinsley
2003-03-23 20:54                               ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 22:13                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 21:51                               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 21:59                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 22:14                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 22:46                                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-25 11:35                               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-03-25 11:36                               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-03-23 20:09                         ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-23 20:21                           ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 20:49                           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 22:22                             ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 21:56                       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 21:59                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-03-24 15:33                       ` jlnance
2003-03-23 19:53                     ` Jörn Engel
2003-03-24  0:08                       ` Sven Schuster
2003-03-24  0:20                         ` James Bourne
2003-03-24  0:37                           ` Sven Schuster
2003-03-24  0:50                             ` James Bourne
2003-03-24  0:39                           ` Jörn Engel
2003-03-24  2:54                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-24  2:57                               ` James Bourne
2003-03-24  2:59                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-24 14:42                               ` Dave Jones
2003-03-27  7:47                                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-26 20:30                                   ` Dave Jones
2003-03-26 20:41                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-26 21:02                                       ` Jörn Engel
2003-03-27  5:20                                       ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 19:41                   ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-17 19:34     ` Alan Cox
2003-03-17 18:27       ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-17 19:23         ` Neale Banks
2003-03-18 18:44           ` James Bourne
     [not found] <20030317161020$42ed@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-03-17 18:39 ` Ben Pfaff
2003-03-18  1:46   ` Alan Cox
2003-03-19 11:28 mlafon
2003-03-19 20:09 Matthew Grant
2003-03-19 21:34 ` Matthew Grant
     [not found] <20030323194012$6886@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030323194014$66c3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030323195010$5026@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <20030323195012$6f30@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <20030323200029$737b@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <20030323202005$2a74@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-03-23 20:33           ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 22:24             ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 21:46               ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 23:05                 ` Alan Cox
     [not found]       ` <20030323200023$1a65@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <20030323202014$096a@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-03-23 20:35           ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 20:59             ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 22:38 Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 22:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 23:06   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 10:30     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-03-24 10:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-03-24 15:40       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 16:55         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-03-27 14:47 Dr. Greg Wettstein

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