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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: ranty@debian.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: firmware separation filesystem (fwfs)
Date: 17 Apr 2003 14:12:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1050585122.31390.25.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030417012321.GB9219@zax>

On Iau, 2003-04-17 at 02:23, David Gibson wrote:
> > But so would loading it from hotplug via ioctl. It might be we want
> > a clean hotplug way to ask for 'firmare for xyz'.
> 
> True, but ioctl()s are horrid.  And the driver needs to set up a
> suitable device to which the ioctl() is applied, and deal with binding
> the right image to the right instance, which can get messy in some

You are ignoring the main issue of discussion. I don't care if its
ioctl, tcp/ip over carrier pigeon or a pipe.

fwfs is a broken idea because it leaves the data in kernel space. On
a giant IBM monster maybe nobody cares about a few hundred K of cached
firmware in the kernel, but the rest of us happen to run real world
computers.

Catting the firmware to a device node also works fine for me as an 
API, but keep the firmware in userspace.



Alan


  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-17 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-16  0:57 Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-04-16 11:31 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-16 14:46   ` David Gibson
2003-04-16 16:36     ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-04-16 15:47       ` Alan Cox
2003-04-16 16:57         ` Riley Williams
2003-04-17 13:43           ` Alan Cox
2003-04-17 13:43           ` Alan Cox
2003-04-17  1:23         ` David Gibson
2003-04-17 13:12           ` Alan Cox [this message]
2003-04-19 20:41             ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-04-19 21:52               ` Alan Cox
2003-04-20 19:26                 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-04-17  0:17 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-17  2:00 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-17  3:31 ` Manuel Estrada Sainz
2003-04-17  4:06   ` Greg KH
2003-04-17  3:48 ` 'David Gibson'
2003-04-17  4:07 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky

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