From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262813AbTEAXx5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2003 19:53:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262816AbTEAXx5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2003 19:53:57 -0400 Received: from rth.ninka.net ([216.101.162.244]:46553 "EHLO rth.ninka.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262813AbTEAXxz (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2003 19:53:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] From: "David S. Miller" To: Dax Kelson Cc: Larry McVoy , "Downing, Thomas" , Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Message-Id: <1051789446.8772.13.camel@rth.ninka.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 01 May 2003 04:44:06 -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2003-04-30 at 13:00, Dax Kelson wrote: > Current --in production-- DRM. Clearly no. Current DRM is mostly all > targeted to audio / video content protection. > > So, nothing that we have *today* is a response to Open Source. I can't believe nobody talks about TiVO and what they're doing (only allowing signed Linux kernels to boot on their machines). That is DRM, and directly in response to open source. Yet at the same time I recognize the truth in Linus's stance here. And personally, I'm going to speak with my walet by not buying any products from those fucknuts at TIVO. This is precisely the mechanism Linus said would decide if DRM is successful or not. -- David S. Miller