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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Dean McEwan <dean_mcewan@linuxmail.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Digital Rights Management - An idea (limited lease, renting, expiration, verification) NON HARWARE BASED.
Date: 14 May 2003 14:49:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1052920142.2492.6.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030514135256.26073.qmail@linuxmail.org>

On Mer, 2003-05-14 at 14:52, Dean McEwan wrote:
> It would be set up so that files have an internal signature (ELF format might have to be
> fiddled with). It would verify itself by sending info to the creator of the contents PC OR server
> asking for verification of itself, files could be limited lease, rented, or automatically expire 
> after some time.

That way around doesnt actually work because I'll simply lie, fake the server or firewall you
(in fact any serious business firewalls all outgoing traffic from end users). If you want
to do it for internal trust and you control the systems (the useful case) you set SELinux
or RSBAC up so that all applications create files in a "non runnable" class. The only way
to transition an app is a single user application which does your key checking and other
processing then transitions the binary to "safe". I guess you also add a general rule that
writing to a file moves it back into non runnable.

One of the problems with this is interpreters. Its easy to do this with ELF binaries but
you have to extend it to scripts and that normally means more pain 8)




  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-14 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-14 13:52 Dean McEwan
2003-05-14 13:49 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2003-05-14 14:36 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-14 14:58   ` Larry McVoy
2003-05-14 15:22     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-14 18:48       ` Larry McVoy
2003-05-14 16:04   ` Digital Rights Management - An idea (limited lease, renting, Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-05-14 15:12 ` Digital Rights Management - An idea (limited lease, renting, expiration, verification) NON HARWARE BASED Tomas Szepe
2003-05-14 15:40 ` Digital Rights Management - An idea (limited lease, renting, Giuliano Pochini
2003-05-14 15:34 Digital Rights Management - An idea (limited lease, renting, expiration, verification) NON HARWARE BASED Dean McEwan
2003-05-15 10:35 Dean McEwan

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