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From: Benjamin Mugnier <benjamin.mugnier@foss.st.com>
To: Sergey Lebedev <lsa.uz@pm.me>, Peter Marshall <pm@petermarshall.ca>
Cc: Sylvain Petinot <sylvain.petinot@foss.st.com>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Hans de Goede <hansg@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Scally <dan.scally@ideasonboard.com>,
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	<platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] media: i2c: st-vd55g1: Genericize driver and add VD55G0 support
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2026 11:29:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1070f707-8a23-419e-a0a2-a6f295ceb5a0@foss.st.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260910213308.53429-1-lsa.uz@pm.me>

Hi Sergey,

Le 10/09/2026 à 23:33, Sergey Lebedev a écrit :
> Following up on the firmware blocker I raised on 7 September, since it is
> still the thing that stops anyone but the author from using VD55G0. Relayed
> with Peter Marshall's agreement.
> 
> Peter sourced the firmware the same way I did for testing: the version 2.11
> patch array in Andre Gilerson's out-of-tree VD55G0 driver, which he reports is
> identical to the one in ST's standalone driver. He has published the extracted
> blobs for testing at
> 
>   https://github.com/petm5/vd55g-firmware
> 
> and would prefer submission to linux-firmware over a built-in array, so that
> firmware can be updated independently of the kernel version. I agree that is
> the better end state.
> 
> Worth adding, because it may lower the bar for getting there: the built-in
> arrangement is already in the tree, from ST, for the sibling part.
> drivers/media/i2c/vd55g1.c is Copyright (C) 2025 STMicroelectronics SA under
> SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0, and it carries vd55g1_patch_array[] - 3512
> bytes, firmware revision 2.9 by its own defines. That file has no
> request_firmware path at all; the built-in array is its only mechanism.

We initially thought of using linux-firmware, and we didn't for several
reasons :
- The firmware is reasonably small.
- The driver source code is directly dependant on the firmware, as some
behaviors may be altered by the firmware. Keeping it in the source code
allows easy synchronisation.
- A lot of mainline sensor do the same thing, with exception for only 4
drivers (ccs included) that use request-firmware.

It has been discussed with maintainers back to the vgxy61.

Unless I'm proven moving to the request_firmware API allows more upsides
than the above points, unfortunately I will not ack a serie that moves
from the builtin patch to the request_firmware API.

> 
> Different sensor and a different binary from the VD55G0 one, which measures
> 6868 bytes at revision 2.11, so it is precedent for the arrangement rather
> than for the blob. But it does mean a built-in for VD55G0 would not be asking
> ST for something they have not already done one part number over, whereas
> linux-firmware needs an explicit redistribution grant in WHENCE from the
> copyright holder.

I'm not sure I get you. Is this a licence problem of some sort ? Could
you rephrase ?

Anyway if we don't move to request_firmware I guess this is a non issue ?

By the way we didn't upstream the vd55g0 because it requires a bit of
cleaning, but this is something that could also be done.

> 
> So the two routes are not equally hard today, and they are not exclusive: a
> built-in now and linux-firmware when ST are ready is not a wasted step.
> 
> Whether GPL-2.0 on the surrounding code carries the blob with it is a licence
> question and not one I will answer.
> 
> Benjamin, Sylvain - this is the one blocker on the series that nobody outside
> ST can clear.
> 
> Sergey
> 

-- 
Regards,
Benjamin


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-15  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-10 21:33 Sergey Lebedev
2026-09-15  9:29 ` Benjamin Mugnier [this message]
2026-09-15 10:07   ` Sergey Lebedev
2026-09-15 11:48     ` Benjamin Mugnier
2026-09-15 17:36       ` Sergey Lebedev
2026-09-16  8:55         ` Benjamin Mugnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-09-07 20:59 Sergey Lebedev
2026-09-08  8:54 ` Benjamin Mugnier
2026-09-08 10:07   ` Sergey Lebedev
2026-09-02 20:45 Peter Marshall
2026-09-04 12:06 ` Benjamin Mugnier
     [not found]   ` <DL6TUYCM6AE9.3SFNKPI5T7CVS@petermarshall.ca>
2026-09-08  8:48     ` Benjamin Mugnier

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