From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264510AbTL1D5p (ORCPT ); Sat, 27 Dec 2003 22:57:45 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264511AbTL1D5o (ORCPT ); Sat, 27 Dec 2003 22:57:44 -0500 Received: from [64.65.177.98] ([64.65.177.98]:10460 "EHLO mail.pacrimopen.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264510AbTL1D5n (ORCPT ); Sat, 27 Dec 2003 22:57:43 -0500 Subject: Re: 2.7 (future kernel) wish From: Joshua Schmidlkofer To: Jim Crilly Cc: "David B. Stevens" , Helge Hafting , Jos Hulzink , Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <3FEE47F5.6090406@why.dont.jablowme.net> References: <200312232342.17532.josh@stack.nl> <20031226233855.GA476@hh.idb.hist.no> <3FECCAF9.7070209@maine.rr.com> <1072507896.27022.226.camel@menion.home> <3FEE47F5.6090406@why.dont.jablowme.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1072583848.32719.7.camel@menion.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 19:57:29 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > > Generally it just complains that you pulled out the device prematurely, > I've never seen one give a STOP error from that but I guess a bad driver > or USB controller could cause anything. > Generally, yes. But it is not over-statement to say 'sometimes'. I have seen this quite a bit. =(. So I try not to pull devices w/o using 'Safely Remove...' > When you insert a device like a USB stick Windows puts a little icon > next to the clock in the system tray that you're supposed to use to stop > the device before pulling it, effectively it unmounts and stops (or > atleast releases the device from) the driver so the device can be > 'safely' removed. I am aware of this, =). I was just commenting that yanking the device in Windows - is not that much different from Linux. Now, I would like to see the HAL type crap for Linux. It would be nice to have uniform user device control from a gui programmable means. js -- VB programmers ask why no one takes them seriously, it's somewhat akin to a McDonalds manager asking employees why they don't take their 'career' seriously.