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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
To: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
Cc: root@chaos.analogic.com, linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Why no interrupt priorities?
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 22:30:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1077831001.4443.9.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <403E5EF7.7080309@am.sony.com>

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On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 22:02, Tim Bird wrote:
> Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Tim Bird wrote:
> > 
> >>What's the rationale for not supporting interrupt priorities
> >>in the kernel?
> > 
> > Interrupt priorities are supported and have been supported
> > since the first cascaded interrupt controllers and, now
> > with the APIC. 
> 
> Please forgive my ignorance.  I'm not sure what's going
> on with 2.6 and work queues, but do the hardware priorities
> allow you to control scheduling of interrupt bottom halves?


hardware IRQ priorities are useless for the linux model. In linux, the
hardirq runs *very* briefly and then lets the softirq context do the
longer taking work. hardware irq priorities then don't matter really
because the hardirq's are hardly ever interrupted really, and when they
are they cause a performance *loss* due to cache trashing. The latency
added by waiting briefly is going to be really really short for any sane
hardware.

Now doing priorities in softirq context... well... here again it's a
case of a tiny latency hit vs a lot of cache trashing. If your softirq
handler runs in 10 cachemisses (it's useless to talk about cpu cycles
since most of teh time you'll be cache bound) that's not too long
latency, but if you interrupt it it might get 15 or more cachemisses
instead. That again will increase the delay the user context gets from
irq's.... so from a userspace pov you actually increased irq latency....

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-26 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-26 19:05 Tim Bird
2004-02-26 19:39 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-26 21:02   ` Tim Bird
2004-02-26 21:30     ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2004-02-26 22:21       ` Mark Gross
2004-02-27  7:14         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-27 11:27           ` Ingo Oeser
2004-02-27 11:52             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-27 13:23     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-27 12:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-26 23:47 Albert Cahalan
2004-02-27  1:36 Grover, Andrew
2004-02-27  3:02 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-02-29  8:32   ` Michael Frank
2004-02-29  8:36     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-29  9:52       ` Michael Frank
2004-02-27  5:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-02-27  6:26   ` Michael Frank
2004-02-27  6:46     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-02-27  9:05     ` Russell King
2004-02-27 13:31       ` Michael Frank
2004-02-27 13:45         ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-27 13:50         ` Russell King
2004-02-27 14:51           ` Michael Frank
2004-02-27  7:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-27 10:15 ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-27 18:32   ` Mike Fedyk
     [not found] <mailman.1077822002.21081.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2004-02-27  8:00 ` Pete Zaitcev
2004-02-27 11:37 Etienne Lorrain
2004-02-27 13:24 ` Michael Frank
2004-02-27 17:44 Grover, Andrew
2004-02-27 18:15 ` Chris Friesen
2004-02-27 18:42   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-27 19:42     ` Michael Frank
2004-02-27 19:11   ` Michael Frank
2004-02-27 18:55 ` Matt Mackall
2004-02-27 19:09   ` Tim Hockin
2004-02-27 20:29     ` Matt Mackall
2004-02-27 19:19   ` Michael Frank
2004-02-27 20:53     ` Jesse Pollard
2004-02-29  9:43       ` Michael Frank
2004-03-01 16:57         ` Jesse Pollard
2004-03-01 17:35           ` Michael Frank
2004-03-02 15:25             ` Jesse Pollard

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